moorey
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E13, ZTTO and Garbaruk.Just wondering what brands are you using?
Edit. And Sunrace. All XD.
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E13, ZTTO and Garbaruk.Just wondering what brands are you using?
Was doing a trawl around online stores (as you do) and it looks like AXS stuff is actually cheaper than Di2. Quite a bit cheaper if you go GX (which apparently suffers no noticeable reduction in shifting quality over the more expensive stuff).Not all. Financial problems is the main hurdle.
I’d have to go 12sp, adding a cassette etc.Was doing a trawl around online stores (as you do) and it looks like AXS stuff is actually cheaper than Di2. Quite a bit cheaper if you go GX (which apparently suffers no noticeable reduction in shifting quality over the more expensive stuff).
Appreciate it's still mind-numbingly pricey for a drivetrain, but would be willing to bet a GX AXS derailleur & shifter is going to come in for less than Di2 derailleur / shifter / wires / battery thingy / crap
Haven’t tried the Garbaruk yet.Ah, would've seen that if I'd read the whole thread, oops.
Are you using a Garbaruk cage extender with the cassette? I know two people who've got Garbaruk stuff and don't rate it for shifting quality, which really sucks as I talked one of them into buying it in the first place because I thought it'd be awesome.
I have a Garbaruk cassette and extender working fine on 11 speed, no complaints so far.Ah, would've seen that if I'd read the whole thread, oops.
Are you using a Garbaruk cage extender with the cassette? I know two people who've got Garbaruk stuff and don't rate it for shifting quality, which really sucks as I talked one of them into buying it in the first place because I thought it'd be awesome.
Except for the fundamental problem of being SRAM...Ummm just going to say, sram axs avoids all the problems.
And the cost of MTBing accidents on electronic anything.Except for the fundamental problem of being SRAM...
You'd be wrong there Frogboy. Inner cables do stretch, and outers (usually) take a fair while to deform, although the inner layer can wear through over time, causing more friction.Also I actually think it might be the cable outer compressing when it's wearing in. The inner cable doesn't stretch, common misconception.
The more you know. I’ll edit my bullshit.You'd be wrong there Frogboy. Inner cables do stretch, and outers (usually) take a fair while to deform, although the inner layer can wear through over time, causing more friction.
Inner cables aren't straight; the constituent wires are coil-wound, so each time tension is applied they straighten out just a little bit, but especially so early in the cable's life.
Outer gear cable casing nearly always has non-coiled reinforcing, which only begins to compress when the outer/binding skin degrades, allowing the structural wires to separate and blow the housing apart.
The RS900 housing is a coil-wound housing, only available in short bits because some roadie frame manufacturers decided to pop the rear derailleur cable out of the frame right on the dropout and "needed" the better flexibility. The trade-offs are the coil-wound housing is more prone to compression than straight-laid, plus the inner liner wears faster due to the tighter curve.
HG bites, and 11t bites more. Dropping a couple of teeth at the small end increases top end speed so much. I much prefer the XD.The more you know. I’ll edit my bullshit.
@moorey what is the reason for using the sunrace and not the 11-46 shimano m8000 rear cassette?
Ah ha - so that's why there's 24cm sections of outer for sale...thought that was weird!You'd be wrong there Frogboy. Inner cables do stretch, and outers (usually) take a fair while to deform, although the inner layer can wear through over time, causing more friction.
Inner cables aren't straight; the constituent wires are coil-wound, so each time tension is applied they straighten out just a little bit, but especially so early in the cable's life.
Outer gear cable casing nearly always has non-coiled reinforcing, which only begins to compress when the outer/binding skin degrades, allowing the structural wires to separate and blow the housing apart.
The RS900 housing is a coil-wound housing, only available in short bits because some roadie frame manufacturers decided to pop the rear derailleur cable out of the frame right on the dropout and "needed" the better flexibility. The trade-offs are the coil-wound housing is more prone to compression than straight-laid, plus the inner liner wears faster due to the tighter curve.
Sometimes the answer is right in front of youJust go single speed and you won’t have problems with wearing out shift cables
Hard no on the 10sp. 11 speed XT has been the most reliable and cost effective gear I’ve used in the last 20 years. I doubt that it would solve this anyway.Get a 10 speed XTR set up and be done. best shifting ever. Super smooth, never misses. Avoid teflon cables like a pig on speed too.
Alternatively hunt down an ACROS hydraulic shifting system and begin pulling out any hair in places you might still have it.
Yeah, hence my initial enthusiasm for spruiking them to anyone who would listen. The cassettes are works of art and weigh basically nothing. Plus it's pretty cool to support something a bit different (if they're still based in Ukraine or Poland now maybe).They are beautifully light and quite hard-wearing though in my experience.
In my experience the 11-46 has all the durability of brie, plus it's too heavy. Does shift really nicely with Shimano derailleurs though I'll give it that.The more you know. I’ll edit my bullshit.
@moorey what is the reason for using the sunrace and not the 11-46 shimano m8000 rear cassette?
Sounds like a plan...let me know when you've reversed back to the point at which you realise you need a new frame. That way, you can start the process all over again...I'm telling you, those 10speed XTR shifters are smoother than Rolf Harris at a school prom.I’ll work backwards from there and report back.