Black Dogs and mental shit in general

Rorschach

Didnt pay $250 for this custom title
Understandable... see meds as a break to help you fix the other. Worked for me when I was op Bupe but that is a story I'm not publishing.

All the best buddy!
Would happily go for a slow ride with you one day
Thanks mate, I'll look you up if I ever get back to FNQ for that slow ride, or swift pint or 2 (or both!)
 

Rorschach

Didnt pay $250 for this custom title
Today has been shit. Feeling off all day, Halfway through a meeting I felt a lump in my throat and realised I really wanted to cry. Didn’t have a chance to get my head together and felt really isolated. I’m a contractor so not really part of the team, and no real friends now a few people have moved on. Still felt a bit shit when I got home, but made a dirty on the couch with my toddler and felt better afterwards. Not feeling 100% now.
My Psych has a few things I need to work on, and I’m struggling to implement them. Baseline isn’t great at the minute, works really busy and I have zero downtime. I might have an offshore trip coming up, actually hoping it comes together so I get a reset for a week
 

Cardy George

Piercing rural members since 1981
Today has been shit. Feeling off all day, Halfway through a meeting I felt a lump in my throat and realised I really wanted to cry. Didn’t have a chance to get my head together and felt really isolated. I’m a contractor so not really part of the team, and no real friends now a few people have moved on. Still felt a bit shit when I got home, but made a dirty on the couch with my toddler and felt better afterwards. Not feeling 100% now.
My Psych has a few things I need to work on, and I’m struggling to implement them. Baseline isn’t great at the minute, works really busy and I have zero downtime. I might have an offshore trip coming up, actually hoping it comes together so I get a reset for a week
I'm hearing you. Few things here making it feel like an endless flogging to nothing.

Keep pushing. Try to make a few minutes for yourself sometime through the day.
 

Cardy George

Piercing rural members since 1981
I think I need to prioritise getting out of the office and doing something at lunchtime. I don’t sit down in the evenings til 8, and then away to bed at 830 or so
I used to go for a walk on my lunch break to get out of the scenario. It was my barometer on when I'd had more than enough of their shit.
 

Rorschach

Didnt pay $250 for this custom title
This is true, and while I feel like I’ve been able to in the past, a handful of a toddler and a 7 week old aren’t the best times to put myself top of the pile. I get out for a few hours on a Saturday morning and that’s about my regular limit at the minute.
I’ve also been having a couple of drinks every night for the last month, which I need to try and knock on the head as I think I’m using it to cope.
My psych thinks I take stuff to heart too much as well as be too hard on myself. She’s not wrong but I don’t know how to break that.

As for getting out during office time, we had a team building event on Friday and went to play disc golf. I thought it was going to suck, but it was really good fun, there is a course a 10 minute walk away and it’s free. I’m going to buy a disc and look to play that during the days I’m at our office, normally a Monday and Friday.
 

The Reverend

Likes Bikes and Dirt
It is hard, and in many ways it can be tempting to just keep cracking on to get things done.

What I find happens is I get resentful, annoyed and frustrated with it all after too long.

My father told me once about "giving from an empty cup" which really stayed with me.
Both you and your partner need to find time to do things for yourselves, individually and as a family.

And of you're identifying the drink as a crutch then definitely watch it, that can get harder over time.

With the sensitivity I spent some time on a coursera specialisation on Social Psychology. It's really eye opening because for me it reinforced that people are the centre of their own universe, not yours. So I let things go and don't take them to heart.
Seldom are people actively looking to upset / aggravate / frustrate / ignore you.

"Don't put down to a mean spirit what can be explained by absent mindedness".

Well done on being in touch with yourself and not ignoring your feelings and challenges. None of us are superheroes.
 

Tubbsy

Packin' a small bird
Staff member
Another thing worth hearing from others is that the second baby, particularly joining another very young kid is just hard hard work.

Little sleep and doesn't always feel like you're getting much back from them at that age at times.

It sounds so trite, but it really does get much better as they get older. Don't be hard on yourself, it's a slog for many even if sometimes it feels like it's just you feeling out of control.
 

The Reverend

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Agreed, the early months and years are really hard. There's precious little reward for the effort and that gets draining on everyone. Put money and no fun times and it's a tough sell.

Fast forward a few years and when you're out with them having a good time it's much better.
My second one was absolutely hell for the first years or so. I was working all the hours under the sun and moon and my wife had to handle a screamer.

Getting time to oneself is a life saver. Get it scheduled and set.
 

Rorschach

Didnt pay $250 for this custom title
Haven't put anything in here for a few weeks, but have really struggled this past week or so.
Feeling really flat, not wanting to go to work, exhausted all the time and pretty irritated.
I had the option of going out riding on Saturday and just couldn't get excited, so I stayed home. Toddler has started waking up at 6, so have gotten up with him the last few days and given the wife a lie-in, then tried to go back to sleep when she got up. Yesterday I went back to sleep from 730 til 10, and still felt smashed for the rest of the day, yawning and it got to 9pm and I just wanted to go to sleep again.
New baby is doing well, and slept from 9pm until 6am so its not him keeping me from sleeping - he's up once a night if that.
Had some bloods done when I first went to the docs about all this, and he said they were all good other than my high cholesterol and fatty liver, which I knew about already.
My psychologist recommended getting on some multivitamins, so need to look into that. She has a nursing background so not just throwing things out there. I think there is some merit, but also think its a recipe for expensive piss. I might give it a go and see if there is any placebo effect.
Motivation is non-existent, not finding any joy in anything, irritation is always round the corner. I'm eating and drinking too much (stout season is not helping). I weigh more than I have in quite a few years.
I feel like I should be prioritising my physical health as well, but I'm not. By the time the kids are asleep, I just want to sit down and do nothing before I go to bed.
I'm thinking of buying some kettlebells and finding a circuit I can do in half an hour or so a couple of times a week, but need to get motivated to do that.
 

Cardy George

Piercing rural members since 1981
Like everything, you get what you pay for, but Aldi have cheap multivitamins that I use to motivate me to drink. Might be worth the experiment and then upgrade if you think it's helping.

Have you managed to get back out for a round of disc golf?
 

Dales Cannon

lightbrain about 4pm
Staff member
Start small and work your way up. Even a walk around the neighbourhood is a good start. Hard place to be, harder to get out of. Best of luck.
 

Rorschach

Didnt pay $250 for this custom title
Like everything, you get what you pay for, but Aldi have cheap multivitamins that I use to motivate me to drink. Might be worth the experiment and then upgrade if you think it's helping.
Have an Aldi down the road, will have a look

Have you managed to get back out for a round of disc golf?
Went for a mooch last Wednesday lunchtime, which was good. Was nice to get out of the office, but its not particularly strenuous. I've got the discs in my office, and planning to go out a couple of times a week (weather dependent). I've also gone out for a few lunch walks, which helps shift the needle a bit but not appreciably.
 

Minlak

custom titis
Went and got some Swisse Mens Ultivite and some St Johns Wort at lunchtime and had them while I ate my lunch.
While I expect its placebo, I do feel a bit better this afternoon - was still feeling shit until about half an hour ago - so we'll see how this goes.
Placebo is only a placebo if it doesn’t work :)
 

Rorschach

Didnt pay $250 for this custom title
Been a little while since I put something in here, but got a bit of time to put my thoughts down.\
Have had 14 sessions with my Psych since April, and while she's helping manage my anxiety and frustration (and I am noticing the effects), she's now told me she thinks I have Dysthymia and asked me to go to the doctor and get some chemical assistance.
I've dropped my sessions to every fortnight now because it gives me a bit more time to work on things we're discussing at my sessions, so I'll see how that goes.

Other than that, things are muddling along, and not a lot has changed for me. Weather has been awful so not been outside very much at all. Got a couple of roadie rides in but can't be bothered doing much else. Motivation is not there for a lot of things but if I think about things from an external perspective everything should be pretty good for me. I'm going to try and make an appointment for the docs tomorrow and see what he says.
 

ForkinGreat

Knows his Brassica oleracea
Been a little while since I put something in here, but got a bit of time to put my thoughts down.\
Have had 14 sessions with my Psych since April, and while she's helping manage my anxiety and frustration (and I am noticing the effects), she's now told me she thinks I have Dysthymia and asked me to go to the doctor and get some chemical assistance.
I've dropped my sessions to every fortnight now because it gives me a bit more time to work on things we're discussing at my sessions, so I'll see how that goes.

Other than that, things are muddling along, and not a lot has changed for me. Weather has been awful so not been outside very much at all. Got a couple of roadie rides in but can't be bothered doing much else. Motivation is not there for a lot of things but if I think about things from an external perspective everything should be pretty good for me. I'm going to try and make an appointment for the docs tomorrow and see what he says.
Hey Rorschach, sounds like you are working through this and giving it a good shake. Working on ourselves is challenging. We can only do it at our own pace. Rock On!
 
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