Asininedrivel
caviar connoisseur
*eye twitch continues*mAy aS wElL pUt A mOtOr iN iT.
As an anecdote I went riding with a bloke a few weeks ago who had a new Heckler SL with all the fancy and less heavy bits (plastic rims, air suspension, robot drivetrain). I was on my Forbidden which I've never weighed but would comfortably be on the wrong side of 17kg, possibly even 18kg. The Heckler SL still felt considerably heavier..