Black Dogs and mental shit in general

[Norco Maniac]

I never messed with my parents until I was an obnoxious hormonal teenager. They were terrifying when pissed off.

Still don't really get the kids thing. They're meant to be the greatest thing ever / what you're meant to spend your whole life gearing towards (especially if you're female). Also they're amazing and the best thing that's ever ever happened to you and you're never allowed to admit that maybe sometimes on occasion you don't like them all that much or you're a monster. Also our big expensive capital cities and their commute times just seem to be deliberately geared towards keeping working parents frazzled, time poor, generally poor and constantly sleep deprived.

All coming from someone with no kids so it's entirely possible I have nfi what I'm on about, but it's just what I've observed.

Nah, i think you're spot on. Capitalism requires a pool of at leadt 10% (un)willing desperate workers, so it encourages breeding so that people have to take shit jobs to earn to feed their families. No wonder that America and increasingly Australia frown on birth control but penalise parents and single mothers.

Studying Community Services was very enlightening.

 

[Haakon]

Don't take any earbuds either.

Yeah, i dont get earbuds on the bike either. I know some people like it, but not once did i feel the need.

Nah, i think you're spot on. Capitalism requires a pool of at leadt 10% (un)willing desperate workers, so it encourages breeding so that people have to take shit jobs to earn to feed their families. No wonder that America and increasingly Australia frown on birth control but penalise parents and single mothers.

Studying Community Services was very enlightening.

That’s a scary observation. Met one of them today, angry little tradie bogan. They seem so unhappy, and utterly unaware of how little they’re valued.

 

[moorey]

That’s a scary observation. Met one of them today, angry little public servant. They seem so unhappy, and utterly unaware of how little they’re valued.

FIFY.

 

[Haakon]

FIFY.

Lol. I was waiting for that... This one was quite odd though. Little scrote was driving a shitbox pouring smoke out the back. Happened to stop next to him and told him it was making some smoke - maybe he didn’t know, it certainly needed some attention. Got my head chewed off... Shook my head in bemusement and wound the window back up, and had him abusing me until the light went green. Super weird.
It seems to be a common thing amongst the intellectually deficient, angry abuse as the automatic first response to anything perceived as criticism.... Even though I wasn’t having a go at him.

 

[moorey]

Lol. I was waiting for that... This one was quite odd though. Little scrote was driving a shitbox pouring smoke out the back. Happened to stop next to him and told him it was making some smoke - maybe he didn’t know, it certainly needed some attention. Got my head chewed off... Shook my head in bemusement and wound the window back up, and had him abusing me until the light went green. Super weird.
It seems to be a common thing amongst the intellectually deficient, angry abuse as the automatic first response to anything perceived as criticism.... Even though I wasn’t having a go at him.

You’ve reached peak @Haakon

 

[hifiandmtb]

You’ve reached peak @Haakon

There is no such thing.

 

[moorey]

There is no such thing.

Good point.
*so far

 

[Rorschach]

Unpacking a few things there, it seems from what you've said that sleep quality due to a young child and knowing another coming will mean more sleep disruption might be the main driver of your current predicament. Eating crap and drinking are symptoms of self-medicating behaviour to get you through. There's good reasons why sleep deprivation is used as a torture device, after all. Can you get family support or some daycare or home help to lighten the load? This is the time when your wife needs you to be emotionally on board so physical support around day to day household tasks might help.

I raised 4, including twins, with no family support and an emotionally absent husband so i do understand what the daily sleepless grind and having to work feels like. It's hell. I've been dancing with the Black Dog since i was 13, and i hear you.

You might be right, and it’s one thing feeding another. I’ve got a referral to see a sleep specialist again as well, so will see what they say too.
I know I’m self medicating by eating crap and drinking (although my drinking is maybe one beer a night during the week and 2 on a weekend, and not every night, maybe 4 in 7) and it’s the easy way to cope.
Whether the sleep issues are a symptom of my mental state I don’t know

 

[Cardy George]

I never messed with my parents until I was an obnoxious hormonal teenager. They were terrifying when pissed off.

Still don't really get the kids thing. They're meant to be the greatest thing ever / what you're meant to spend your whole life gearing towards (especially if you're female). Also they're amazing and the best thing that's ever ever happened to you and you're never allowed to admit that maybe sometimes on occasion you don't like them all that much or you're a monster. Also our big expensive capital cities and their commute times just seem to be deliberately geared towards keeping working parents frazzled, time poor, generally poor and constantly sleep deprived.

All coming from someone with no kids so it's entirely possible I have nfi what I'm on about, but it's just what I've observed.

Yeah, you're pretty much onto it. Mrs George and I quite often sit and look at each other and go WTF were we thinking. My step-daughter was 13 when Oldest Boy arrived, we could have been empty nesters by now.

 

[Haakon]

You’ve reached peak @Haakon

yeah, whatever. You really can be a prick... It was just the days lesson in why not to try to be helpful. I’ll try to do better to remember to let fuckwits work it out for themselves.

It was (and you are...) another reminder pertinent to this thread of why humanity in general can get fucked. People are reliably annoying and stupid and I’m much happier avoiding the lot of them

 

[moorey]

yeah, whatever. You really can be a prick... It was just the days lesson in why not to try to be helpful. I’ll try to do better to remember to let fuckwits work it out for themselves.

It was (and you are...) another reminder pertinent to this thread of why humanity in general can get fucked. People are reliably annoying and stupid and I’m much happier avoiding the lot of them

@hifiandmtb was right.

 

[Ultra Lord]

@hifiandmtb was right.

To be fair

you are a prick

 

[moorey]

To be fair
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you are a prick

To be fair, it’s true.

 

[moorey]

Allow me to clear the air, as this thread is not the place for cheap shots, and I apologise for doing so. @Haakon, it's always hard for me to tell if you're serious or not, so in this instance I'll assume you are.
Your RB persona seems largely based around looking down your nose on people in society you deem to be lesser than you....but I assume it's just your 'bit', have always taken it that way, you seem to revel in that image, so I'm always happy to have a dig.
I don't assume you are that person in daily life.
I, on the other hand am a smart arse, opinionated prick on here, but in real life....um....ah crap.
Back to hating on the black dog.

 

[Rorschach]

Back on topic...

Had a call back from the psychologist my GP referred me to - she's going to look at shuffling a few things to try and get me in after Easter.
Also went to bed at 830 last night and pretty much fell asleep reading at 1030, which is better than things have been recently.
Little fella has been waking up during the night and I've been sleeping pretty lightly (when I have been, but apparently slept through him waking up at around midnight, which is good. I went in and sorted him out at 4 when he woke up and managed to get back to sleep for a couple of hours. Still feel rooted, but actually feel like I've slept today and my morning coffee doesn't feel like it's doing as much heavy lifting as it has done for the last few weeks.
I'm also feeling better mentally than I was on Monday and yesterday. Going and seeing someone and asking for some help, as well as putting it out there on here has been cathartic to say the least.

 

[moorey]

Good to hear, @Rorschach. Talking, even to MTB rando’s, does help, even if just to help normalize something that doesn’t feel normal.

 

[ForkinGreat]

To be fair, it’s true.

@moorey Freely admitting that you are a prick doesn't excuse your poor impulse control. Do you act that way with your clients and co-workers?

 

[Haakon]

Allow me to clear the air, as this thread is not the place for cheap shots, and I apologise for doing so. @Haakon, it's always hard for me to tell if you're serious or not, so in this instance I'll assume you are.
Your RB persona seems largely based around looking down your nose on people in society you deem to be lesser than you....but I assume it's just your 'bit', have always taken it that way, you seem to revel in that image, so I'm always happy to have a dig.
I don't assume you are that person in daily life.
I, on the other hand am a smart arse, opinionated prick on here, but in real life....um....ah crap.
Back to hating on the black dog.

I dont look down my nose at anyone until they've demonstrated its utterly warranted. Believe it or not, i generally think the best of people at first. Its been a long life of hard lessons in why this is a poor policy, yet for some stupid reason its still my default.

Im getting better at remembering more often than not they'll turn out to be self centred pricks, but its a work in progress.

 

[Asininedrivel]

Im getting better at remembering more often than not they'll turn out to be self centred pricks, but its a work in progress.

As a general rule, I find members of the MTB community to be completely awesome as pretty much a default until proven otherwise.

Also; I'm*

 

[Haakon]

As a general rule, I find members of the MTB community to be completely awesome as pretty much a default until proven otherwise.

Also; I'm*

Which is why i talk to you lot more than anyone else. Lower rate of douchery.