COVID-19: who’s going full doomsday prep on this?

safreek

*******
Maybe if you had a lot of cleaning or renovation s to do.



So make a Shiv out of my tooth brush?

As long as Trump doesn't get caught reading a book upside down he will be safe...
Mate, don't fuck around, 4 or 5 razorblades melted into a toilet brush, a mate told me how it's done
 

safreek

*******
My bush tracks are at my gate. I'm not locking down, because I don't need to. I'm in the centre of 5 acres, alone. I could contain myself, no problem, but not this beast that I live with. He needs to exercise. I may stop riding daily though, just to minimise the casualty probability.
To be honest that's what worries me the most, Burt barely tolerates my partner, don't know how lock down would go
 

Kerplunk

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Republican party just took a big step towards oblivion.

News coming out that their folk on the intel committee used the info at least a month back to insider trade, dump their shares whilst telling the country everything was fine.

Draining the swamp.
The good fund managers were on to it as soon as the virus blew up in a china. Moved out of stocks into cash, so while the republicans may have insider traded the potential impact was getting modelled by the bank/fund analysts already.. Australia knew on the 5th of Feb they could no longer contain the virus in Aust.. That 6 weeks ago. This was revealed during the press club panel a few days ago.
 

johnny

I'll tells ya!
Staff member
The good fund managers were on to it as soon as the virus blew up in a china. Moved out of stocks into cash, so while the republicans may have insider traded the potential impact was getting modelled by the bank/fund analysts already.. Australia knew on the 5th of Feb they could no longer contain the virus in Aust.. That 6 weeks ago. This was revealed during the press club panel a few days ago.
Yes, the fund managers were doing their job.

The data is out in public view now, the same day these folk got their classified briefing they dumped their stocks. It wasn't from market analysis, it was from information that wasn't available to the public. That covers the insider trading bit. The worse part is that they knew things were going bad but they told the public everything was fine and there was no need to prepare for a serious outbreak.
 

Daniel Hale

She fid, he fid, I fidn't
I think something that starts at 30x average flu mortality
where are you getting that number, covid mortality is running 1% roughly, real figure will b less due to healthy adults not knowing they have it, flu deaths run very similar, except for the nastier variants eg spanish fly, run at 2-3% mortality, remember the flu vaccine skews the real mortality %
361258
 

Mr Crudley

Glock in your sock
My bush tracks are at my gate. I'm not locking down, because I don't need to. I'm in the centre of 5 acres, alone. I could contain myself, no problem, but not this beast that I live with. He needs to exercise. I may stop riding daily though, just to minimise the casualty probability.
Ride slower but live it big. I couldn't resist it as a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Hell, wear your full face and body armour if you have to.
 

safreek

*******
Yes, the fund managers were doing their job.

The data is out in public view now, the same day these folk got their classified briefing they dumped their stocks. It wasn't from market analysis, it was from information that wasn't available to the public. That covers the insider trading bit. The worse part is that they knew things were going bad but they told the public everything was fine and there was no need to prepare for a serious outbreak.
Now that's just a pack of c****, should be held liable for all the deaths as well.
Bang them up for natural life and distribute their wealth to those who suffer.
Why do I feel the need to self censor when I reply to Johnny's posts
 

Kerplunk

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Yes, the fund managers were doing their job.

The data is out in public view now, the same day these folk got their classified briefing they dumped their stocks. It wasn't from market analysis, it was from information that wasn't available to the public. That covers the insider trading bit. The worse part is that they knew things were going bad but they told the public everything was fine and there was no need to prepare for a serious outbreak.
Yes no doubt, but if the info was out there before the briefing it’s difficult to prove insider trading.. Not going to help them politically though, it won’t pass the pub test..
Wonder if the same thing occurred here? They made the decision in Feb to give up extensive contract tracing..
 

johnny

I'll tells ya!
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Intelligence Chairman Raised Virus Alarms Weeks Ago, Secret Recording Shows


March 19, 20205:08 AM ET




The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee warned a small group of well-connected constituents three weeks ago to prepare for dire economic and societal effects of the coronavirus, according to a secret recording obtained by NPR.

The remarks from U.S. Sen. Richard Burr were more stark than any he had delivered in more public forums.

On Feb. 27, when the United States had 15 confirmed cases of COVID-19, President Trump was tamping down fears and suggesting that the virus could be seasonal.

"It's going to disappear. One day, it's like a miracle. It will disappear," the president said then, before adding, "it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We'll see what happens."

On that same day, Burr attended a luncheon held at a social club called the Capitol Hill Club. And he delivered a much more alarming message.

"There's one thing that I can tell you about this: It is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything that we have seen in recent history," he said, according to a secret recording of the remarks obtained by NPR. "It is probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic."

The luncheon had been organized by the Tar Heel Circle, a nonpartisan group whose membership consists of businesses and organizations in North Carolina, the state Burr represents. Membership to join the Tar Heel Circle costs between $500 and $10,000 and promises that members "enjoy interaction with top leaders and staff from Congress, the administration, and the private sector," according to the group's website.

In attendance, according to a copy of the RSVP list obtained by NPR, were dozens of invited guests representing companies and organizations from North Carolina. And according to federal records, those companies or their political committees donated more than $100,000 to Burr's election campaign in 2015 and 2016. (Burr announced previously he was not planning to run for reelection in 2022.)

The message Burr delivered to the group was dire.

Thirteen days before the State Department began to warn against travel to Europe, and 15 days before the Trump administration banned European travelers, Burr warned those in the room to reconsider.

"Every company should be cognizant of the fact that you may have to alter your travel. You may have to look at your employees and judge whether the trip they're making to Europe is essential or whether it can be done on video conference. Why risk it?" Burr said.

Sixteen days before North Carolina closed its schools over the threat of the coronavirus, Burr warned it could happen.

"There will be, I'm sure, times that communities, probably some in North Carolina, have a transmission rate where they say, 'Let's close schools for two weeks. Everybody stay home,' " he said.

And Burr invoked the possibility that the military might be mobilized to combat the coronavirus. Only now, three weeks later, is the public learning of that prospect.

"We're going to send a military hospital there; it's going to be in tents and going to be set up on the ground somewhere," Burr said at the luncheon. "It's going to be a decision the president and DOD make. And we're going to have medical professionals supplemented by local staff to treat the people that need treatment."

Burr has a unique perspective on the government's response to a pandemic, and not just because of his role as Intelligence Committee chairman. He helped to write the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act (PAHPA), which forms the framework for the federal response.

But in his public comments about the threat of COVID-19, Burr never offered the kind of precise warning that he delivered to the small group of his constituents.

On Feb. 7, Burr co-authored an op-ed that laid out the tools that the U.S. government had at its disposal to fight the coronavirus.

"Luckily, we have a framework in place that has put us in a better position than any other country to respond to a public health threat, like the coronavirus," Burr said in a statement on March 5.

He pressed a CDC official in early March as to why the nation's pandemic surveillance capabilities had fallen short despite the millions in funding he had helped secure for that purpose through PAHPA.

But despite his longtime interest in biohazard threats, his expertise on the subject, and his role as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Burr did not warn the public of the government actions he thought might become necessary, as he did at the luncheon on Feb. 27.

Burr's office did not directly respond to a list of questions sent by NPR.

His spokesperson Caitlin Carroll provided a statement that stressed Burr's decades-long interest in public health preparedness.

"Since early February, whether in constituent meetings or open hearings, he has worked to educate the public about the tools and resources our government has to confront the spread of coronavirus," Carroll wrote. "At the same time, he has urged public officials to fully utilize every tool at their disposal in this effort. Every American should take this threat seriously and should follow the latest guidelines from the CDC and state officials."

One public health expert told NPR that early warnings about a coming health crisis and its effects could have made a difference just a few weeks ago.

"In the interest of public health, we actually need to involve the public. It's right there in the name. And being transparent, being as clear as possible is very important," said Jason Silverstein, who lectures at the Department of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School.

On Thurday, Sen. Burr took to Twitter and called NPR's reporting on the matter a "tabloid-style hit piece." He also raises cases in which other individuals — not him — warned the public about a possible coming Coronavirus health crisis.


Meanwhile, ProPublica released a report Thursday evening showing that Burr had unloaded a substantial amount of stocks in mid-February, before the recent market volatility.

Burr sold personal stocks worth between $628,000 and $1.72 million in 33 separate transactions on a single day, February 13th, according to public disclosures.

It was, according to ProPublica, the most stock he's sold in a single day in 14 months.

Asked by NPR for a comment on the senator's stock sales, Burr spokesperson Carroll replied, "lol."

Carroll later reached out to say that the 'lol' remark was meant to express displeasure with NPR's earlier characterizations and not intended as an on-the-record response.

She also provided a formal statement.

"Senator Burr filed a financial disclosure form for personal transactions made several weeks before the U.S. and financial markets showed signs of volatility due to the growing coronavirus outbreak," Carroll said.

"As the situation continues to evolve daily, he has been deeply concerned by the steep and sudden toll this pandemic is taking on our economy."
 

johnny

I'll tells ya!
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Yes no doubt, but if the info was out there before the briefing it’s difficult to prove insider trading.. Not going to help them politically though, it won’t pass the pub test..
Wonder if the same thing occurred here? They made the decision in Feb to give up extensive contract tracing..
It will be interesting to watch, I think the biggest issue is that they clearly had different information to what the leader of their party, the pres. was tellign the nation. I think the insider trading bit is secondary. However, the fact that some of them dumped huge amounts the day of an intel briefing suggests that they may even have had knowledge that the traders did not.
 

clockworked

Like an orange
My kid goes to kindy four days and we need it to stay open. We can't afford to have one of us home, especially with my missus being 12 weeks pregnant, we need all the leave possible for when she's due.

Her mum and stepdad are the conspiracy type, they've been loving all of this, did the panic buying early and love to take that 'told you so' approach. They took their 6 year old out of school this week, to be fair that little wuss is home as much as he's at school anyway, but I just got home from work and they were here. If you're going to go pulling him out of school, stay the fuck home.
Who's mum and stepdad is this?! Your kid's or your missus's?
 

pink poodle

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All right...so heard another interesting thing today. You all thought that the freaks method and aloe vera was a whack idea. Apparently if you gargle vodka, inhale the fumes, spit or swallow at your discretion then you can reduce your risks. Vodka...must be vodka. Sigh
 

hifiandmtb

Sphincter beanie
Republican party just took a big step towards oblivion.

News coming out that their folk on the intel committee used the info at least a month back to insider trade, dump their shares whilst telling the country everything was fine.

Draining the swamp.
The spin will deflect. They have their spin down to a specific RPM that resonates with their voters.
 

Chriso_29er

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All right...so heard another interesting thing today. You all thought that the freaks method and aloe vera was a whack idea. Apparently if you gargle vodka, inhale the fumes, spit or swallow at your discretion then you can reduce your risks. Vodka...must be vodka. Sigh
I know a guy who's entire life is international travel, spends only about 6 weeks a year at home. He swears by a shot in the morning lol, believes it keeps sickness away.


I just want to know if this is just above the common cold or no worse than the flu and only affects old people.
How the fuck did the 35yo whistle blowing doc die from it?
 
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