wolfjjj
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I'm far more efficient on the bike, I'm a terrible runner though I'm working on it (well planning to work on it
) But generally running your HR will be higher as it's load bearing.
What does "Riding to Heartrate" mean?
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) But generally running your HR will be higher as it's load bearing.Okay gents.
Firstly, I will say this;
NO, I could not have gone any harder. Even if you were there ringing cowbells and yelling 'Allez Allez', I still would have been as smashed.
Stromlo is not an 8 - 10 minute climb, at least for me on the MTB. Took me 18 minutes, being my two 8 minute sprints and 2 minutes easy free wheeling until I found a spot to pull over and do circle work half way up.
Net result,
Test 1.
Average HR = 158 (no crap, I tried for 160 but just could not).
Peak HR = 164
Test 2
Avergare HR = 157 (I popped at 7.30 with no fuel left in the tank)
Peak = 163
Summary
158 it is. I have no reason to lie about this, that is what it was. I actually feel like a wimp.
Taking into account HR lag perhaps it snuck up to 159, I seemed to sit on 160 alot. Fatigue? I didnt really restore my Glycolgen from yesterday's Red Hill reps, so maybe fatigue played a part. I reckon I felt "normal" to perhaps slightly below avergae in terms of "a good or bad day".
What else do you need to know lads? I took lots of info down.
Raf
Firstly, I will say this;
NO, I could not have gone any harder. Even if you were there ringing cowbells and yelling 'Allez Allez', I still would have been as smashed.
Stromlo is not an 8 - 10 minute climb, at least for me on the MTB. Took me 18 minutes, being my two 8 minute sprints and 2 minutes easy free wheeling until I found a spot to pull over and do circle work half way up.
Net result,
Test 1.
Average HR = 158 (no crap, I tried for 160 but just could not).
Peak HR = 164
Test 2
Avergare HR = 157 (I popped at 7.30 with no fuel left in the tank)
Peak = 163
Summary
158 it is. I have no reason to lie about this, that is what it was. I actually feel like a wimp.
Taking into account HR lag perhaps it snuck up to 159, I seemed to sit on 160 alot. Fatigue? I didnt really restore my Glycolgen from yesterday's Red Hill reps, so maybe fatigue played a part. I reckon I felt "normal" to perhaps slightly below avergae in terms of "a good or bad day".
What else do you need to know lads? I took lots of info down.
Raf
bear the bear
Is a real bear
"Sometimes alls ya can do, is all ya can do"
It is possible that you have a very flat MMP(Mean Maximal Power) curve with not alot of drop between 8 and 20mins.
The other issue is that HR isn't as sensitive as power therefore you can have variations for up to 30 watts for the same heart rate.
Now that you have tested your 8min number you can have some faith in it.
It is possible that you have a very flat MMP(Mean Maximal Power) curve with not alot of drop between 8 and 20mins.
The other issue is that HR isn't as sensitive as power therefore you can have variations for up to 30 watts for the same heart rate.
Now that you have tested your 8min number you can have some faith in it.
Ive got no doubt about the power vs HR Bear.
Had a few little granny moments when the mind wandered off the edge of the cliff and I found myself dropping the power (perceived) while HR stayed fairly steady.
It is fun to do a live test isnt, makes the topic much more interesting.
Raf
Had a few little granny moments when the mind wandered off the edge of the cliff and I found myself dropping the power (perceived) while HR stayed fairly steady.
It is fun to do a live test isnt, makes the topic much more interesting.
Raf
JD26
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We probably need to yell 'VENGA!!' (it's Spanish for the same)
Stromlo is not an 8 - 10 minute climb, at least for me on the MTB. Took me 18 minutes, being my two 8 minute sprints and 2 minutes easy free wheeling until I found a spot to pull over and do circle work half way up.
Don't worry, 8-10 is for road bike (A grade ability)
Yep, I would suggest that 158 is very close to your LT. Only a race, with the higher adrenalin factor could expose a higher heart rate.
Did you do much riding the day before you did the Red Hill reps? I only ask because fatigue affects different people in different ways.
Personally, my HR drops 20 beats when I am fatigued.
What gear were you riding up the hill with, plus what tyres \ bike were you running?
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THank god, I was feeling like an absolute gimp.
Monday was a rest day.
Tuesday I did 60 minutes of hill climbs.
Wednesday I did 50 minutes of hill climbs at Red Hill.
I was on the front middle ring 32T alternating between the 3rd and 4th at the back. I dont know the termiology, sorry.
Tyre = Mavicc Larson TT
My Bike, and promise you wont laugh, is an Avanti Hammer Competitor running XT front to back. I havent got a dually yet, at the moment there is enough gains to be had in weight loss (mine) technical ability (getting there) and fitness (getting there). The dually will not be the deciding factor in wether I can ride for 24 hours. It will add to the pain of course.
Thoughts (on everything except my ride
)Raf
bear the bear
Is a real bear
It's not a bad thing it just means you won't be making the worlds pursuit team anytime soon
A MMP curve is a curve representing your "Mean Maximal" power across a range of durations from 1 second through to 24hrs for those stupid enough to ride that long. The curve represents the decay in power from maximum (sprint) through to your longest effort (whether training or racing)
A flat/ level part of the curve in this area would tend to indicate that you have a very high threshold to VO2 ratio.
Typically this is in the region of 77-79% but I suspect yours is higher...
This lends itself to longer endurance races then shorter more explosive efforts.
Sunnto (Suunto?)
I had a feeling that was the case, hence my facination with the 24hr. I have absolutely no desire to race short course.
After racing (loosely used term) in a team at lasts years Scott, I had this overwhelming thought that I wanted to concentrate on the Endurance part of Edurance race. I was more smashed after 4 laps during 24hrs than I am after 6 laps back to back in training. And it seems all I do is turn down the volume by about 5 BPM which perhaps increases lap time by 5 minutes (on 1:15).
Raf
Sorry for the multiple posts, but more questions.
Weight loss and power to weight. If I ever get to fighting weight (for me 90kg) will this change things? I mean, less weight same power = faster times.
INcreaseing LT / AeT - or whatever this 158 BPM's is. How do I do it? Is it a good thing?
Why wont my heart rate go any higher. Am I doomed to be the turtle forever?
Raf
Weight loss and power to weight. If I ever get to fighting weight (for me 90kg) will this change things? I mean, less weight same power = faster times.
INcreaseing LT / AeT - or whatever this 158 BPM's is. How do I do it? Is it a good thing?
Why wont my heart rate go any higher. Am I doomed to be the turtle forever?
Raf
bear the bear
Is a real bear
Why do I feel cheated? *cries*
Does this affect power output? I mean, assuming same weight between me and someone else, same strength etc, would we both ride the same speed / power output, just my BPM would be lower than theirs? Therefore, does it make any difference? Is this perhaps good? Or is it meaningless in the end.
I assume this IS a bad thing. It means I have a bad VO2 max doesnt it. I have read I can increase VO2 max, but only slightly. Help? Ideas?
*Crushed.*
Raf
wolfjjj
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Thats pretty cool, where did you get that done and how much did it cost?
