The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.

[scblack]

Yeah, no worries with looking after all that nuclear waste for 10's of 1000's of years. That shit'll look after itself.

And when things go wrong it kind of obliterates whole cities, like Chernobyl or unliveable like Fukushima.

 

[Hamsta]

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Current-and-Future-Generation/Plans-For-New-Reactors-Worldwide/

Think of the shrinking AUD$ and the potential to export uranium to some of these players!!!!.

Australia has an abundance of space that can be used to encapsulate and store nuclear waste. We regularly drill directional wells to 4500 -5000 meters into subsea formations. Sometimes the result is less than inspiring and the wells are plugged back and abandoned. It would be pretty easy to bury large amounts of nuclear waste in these abandoned wellbores for the right price.

If nothing else it would give the offshore drilling industry a much needed shot in the arm at the moment.

 

[scblack]

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Current-and-Future-Generation/Plans-For-New-Reactors-Worldwide/

Think of the shrinking AUD$ and the potential to export uranium to some of these players!!!!.

Australia has an abundance of space that can be used to encapsulate and store nuclear waste. We regularly drill directional wells to 4500 -5000 meters into subsea formations. Sometimes the result is less than inspiring and they are plugged back and abandoned. It would be pretty easy to bury large amounts of nuclear waste in these abandoned wellbores for the right price.

Like sweeping it under the carpet?

 

[pink poodle]

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Current-and-Future-Generation/Plans-For-New-Reactors-Worldwide/

Think of the shrinking AUD$ and the potential to export uranium to some of these players!!!!.

Australia has an abundance of space that can be used to encapsulate and store nuclear waste. We regularly drill directional wells to 4500 -5000 meters into subsea formations. Sometimes the result is less than inspiring and the wells are plugged back and abandoned. It would be pretty easy to bury large amounts of nuclear waste in these abandoned wellbores for the right price.

If nothing else it would give the offshore drilling industry a much needed shot in the arm at the moment.

We could also be turned into a penal colony again. All that wide open space...catch is that eventually one of the imprisoned arse raping axe murderers might escape and make their way to civilisation. When that happens all hell could break loose. People fear what its.

 

[John U]

I thought you were concerned with devastation in 50 years from climate change, but now that's less important that burying waste 1km underground permanently and without need for stewardship

Which begs the question, why the point about "corporate arseholes"?

Perhaps because it fits your narrative?

Si618 - don't mention hydro, the greenies are down on that one too

I can't be concerned with both?

If the shit is so easy to look after why do countries producing the waste want to ship it as far away from themselves as possible?

 

[Hamsta]

And when things go wrong it kind of obliterates whole cities, like Chernobyl or unliveable like Fukushima.

Yeah....but think about how densely populated Japan is compared to Australia and the overall size of the 2 countries. Has there been a mass panic and widespread evacuation of the Japanese population? Tourism was initially effected but bargain priced accommodation and cheap flights have helped overcome this.

 

[Flow-Rider]

Which begs the question, why the point about "corporate arseholes"?

Because in the end it becomes a matter of most profit and short cuts get taken. Our government is good at this, sub-let contracts to other companies knowing they can't sustain or complete work without someone taking a huge risk and when it goes to shit, turn around and say it's all their fault.

 

[scblack]

Because in the end it becomes a matter of most profit and short cuts get taken. Our government is good at this, sub-let contracts to other companies knowing they can't sustain or complete work without someone taking a huge risk and when it goes to shit, turn around and say it's all their fault.

True, the pink batts insulation scheme was a perfect example.....

 

[Hamsta]

Like sweeping it under the carpet?

Hmmm....more like burying it in some quality encapsulation material deep below the sea bed away from tectonic plates or other geological abnormalities and cementing the hole up with special cement that prevents migration of any gas etc.

 

[John U]

Plus the final waste itself is a lot less radioactive as a result. I'll try and find the articles, but in any case, I was surprised.

But the fuel is massively concentrated from the ore that is dug up.

I'm not saying that Nuclear is a definite no go. Just that all the concerns around it need to be taken into account as well.

There is no magic bullet. A combination of all options, along with a reduction in consumption is probably what is required. And a reduction in consumption doesn't mean only going backwards. Changes in habit can make big gains.

 

[pharmaboy]

And when things go wrong it kind of obliterates whole cities, like Chernobyl or unliveable like Fukushima.

That's wrong BTW, you should do some research

 

[scblack]

Hmmm....more like burying it in some quality encapsulation material deep below the sea bed away from tectonic plates or other geological abnormalities and cementing the hole up with special cement that prevents migration of any gas etc.

And what happens in 1,000years time when some geologist wants to dig holes to explore the sea bed depths? And the records of those spots was deleted by some idiot who fell asleep and hit the wrong delete button?

It is still precisely the same effect as sweeping it under the carpet.

 

[scblack]

That's wrong BTW, you should do some research

So you would raise your children next door to it?

 

[pharmaboy]

I can't be concerned with both?

If the shit is so easy to look after why do countries producing the waste want to ship it as far away from themselves as possible?

Risk is something we should and do rank daily.

You would want a skeptic on climate change to defer to the average scientific opinion of climate scientists wouldn't you? but when it comes to nuclear power, you don't want to defer to nuclear physicists and engineers - the specialists in the arena?

Rationality and good decision making depends on taking on good advice by the experts in the fields.

 

[Bermshot]

Yeah cool! Lets make a pittance selling the magic yellow cake to others that are not clear sighted. But with that pittance we must design better Tesla Tech so we can be done away with that archaic nonsense.

Good Tesla tech with the right minds may even come up with something cool to nullify yellow cake tech.

 

[si618]

You would want a skeptic on climate change to defer to the average scientific opinion of climate scientists wouldn't you?

Yes, pity we elect fools who don't.

 

[pharmaboy]

So you would raise your children next door to it?

No, but you didn't say live "next door" did you?

You said "obliterate whole cities.......or make them unliveable like Fukushima"

I'm merely pointing out that you haven't read anything on the situation which is well demonstrated by your jumping to a conclusion which is incorrect .

As an aside, the estimated cancer death total will be under 100, there were 19,000 killed that day by the tsunami, and literally whole townships completely obliterated by the tsunami. There were an estimated further 3000 deaths associated with lack of medical facilities/ wate etc and subsequent evacuation, a large number of these are associated with the Fukushima evacuation and damage.

The cleanup is going slowly, not least of all because of residents fearing the waste travelling through their area won't allow it - how's that for community mindedness

 

[scblack]

No, but you didn't say live "next door" did you?

You said "obliterate whole cities.......or make them unliveable like Fukushima"

I'm merely pointing out that you haven't read anything on the situation which is well demonstrated by your jumping to a conclusion which is incorrect .

As an aside, the estimated cancer death total will be under 100, there were 19,000 killed that day by the tsunami, and literally whole townships completely obliterated by the tsunami. There were an estimated further 3000 deaths associated with lack of medical facilities/ wate etc and subsequent evacuation, a large number of these are associated with the Fukushima evacuation and damage.

The cleanup is going slowly, not least of all because of residents fearing the waste travelling through their area won't allow it - how's that for community mindedness

How many people are living in or near Chernobyl these days? 30years later?

 

[Hamsta]

And what happens in 1,000years time when some geologist wants to dig holes to explore the sea bed depths? And the records of those spots was deleted by some idiot who fell asleep and hit the wrong delete button?

It is still precisely the same effect as sweeping it under the carpet.

I guess...but the carpet is of a very good quality and prevents the radiation from hurting anyone and we charge a shit tonne to measure and quote, supply, and install it. . In fact, our carpet is so well designed, manufactured and installed that it doesn't even need a warranty.

I respect what you are saying though........but I guess it is a bit like flying in a plane. Thousands of planes are flying somewhere as I type this and chances are most will reach their destination safely because people follow procedures and things are checked multiple times.

 

[Bermshot]

Just giving Earth a "shot"