What i would realy like to say is that i am one of those people in camberwell with a really nice kona downhill bike, and the reason for that is that i just so happen to work there. It also means that i have 2 bikes instead of one, and sometimes i have 3. also many of my mates ride kona bikes too, and most of them also ride Oragne Kona's. So old mate there who called one of them a shit head come say it to my face or there face and not on a forum. As for them not being taken off road well that is a load of shit, my bike has gone everywhere since i bought it, i dh most weekends on satday and sunday, i have been to most national rounds for the last two years and state rounds for the last 4 or so and i went to whistler for a month and did over 300 downhill runs. so that to me sounds like a dh bike that gets well used and costs me a shit load of money, not my Rich Parents, who for the record dont pay for shit when it comes to my riding. Just like most other people i pay for it myself. Dont just assume that because they have a good bike and dont look like they couldnt afford it that there parents bought it for them. Now i must admit a few of my mates parents did and do pay for alot of their bikes but like me they also dh alot. Also how can you tell if a bike gets used lots or not at all without inspecting it closley??? Maybe what really is going on is that they have alot of respect for there bikes and they clean them and take care of them?? Just because people have money and can afford to purchase expensive items dont mean that you can have a crack at them, they generally have money for a reason, they worked hard to get it, and it means that they can do wat ever the fuk they want with it. If that means buying a $250,000 sports car for the wife just to do the shopping in or a $7000 bike for the kid to go get milk then they can and will. We dont need anything in this world but food, water, fire, shelter and clothing to servive, but why do we have them because we can!!