Thanks for the feedback Ben. I certainly see what you mean about both groups of examples. I still think if I had of been at a later time of day I would have had better results. I'm putting that rule into my head now for the next shoot. lolLast one is my favourite, the warm light on the rocks gives it a nice feel. It's also a nice side on afternoon light by the looks of it which gives everything nice depth. I think it's inevitable that water shots in heavily forrested spots will look dark. The background/trees are never going to be a source of much light to the eye or to a camera - IMO the shots look pretty awful if they are exposed to give high lumininance in these parts of the shot. Exposing for the water (which is a good rule of thumb anyway - if there's water or sky, expose for them) is always the way.
I find it's helpful to see objectively great examples from someone else and then analyse what they've done in a way that is more difficult to do with your own work. To that end, 3 shots that are dark by necessity:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54303179@N03/8646958404/in/faves-benjamin-h/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54303179@N03/8580387112/in/faves-benjamin-h/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28196525@N02/10890867533/in/faves-benjamin-h/
And for balance, a few that caught just the right light - I think basically you want soft back light on foliage so it glows without creating harsh highlights on wet things (water, wet rocks etc). I think you've got to nail the location, conditions and timing for this though.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54303179@N03/8754251911/in/faves-benjamin-h/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kublah/9471262243/in/faves-benjamin-h/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54303179@N03/9436837901/in/faves-benjamin-h/
Very nice Andrew, very nice.Been a while since I posted anything... This is weeping Rock in the Blue Mountains after a little bit of rain, wasn't weeping that day...
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