The Photo Snob Thread

willy_c

Likes Dirt
Hi all,

Got a plastic fantastic (50mm f/1.8 II) brand new not out of the box if anyone is interested. Super fast for the money.

Let me know
Cheers
 

wrongie

Likes Dirt
Why? If cloning is acceptable in other areas of photography, why not in mtb shots? I personally don't see any real issue with it, especially for objects like helmets, rubbish, ugly people...

Sure, you can move spectators, but they might not respond to your request very politely, and you can move yourself, but then you lose the angle/composition that you are in that position to shoot.

I'm not saying that photographers should become reliant on these tools, but they should be allowed to use them if it will make a good shot better
try and submit a cloned photo mate. photo ed's won't touch your stuff when they find out...
 
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leitch

Feelin' a bit rrranty
try and submit a cloned photo mate. photo ed's won't touch your stuff when they find out...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a photo with lurkers growing out of the rider's head/shoulder will similarly be discarded. Cloning something like that is so minor and if done well difficult to detect that I find it hard to agree with you.

Sure, big obvious things that leave obvious artifacts are not going to be received well, but I think to say that "photo eds won't touch your stuff" is a bit of a sweeping generalisation.
 

wombat

Lives in a hole
try and submit a cloned photo mate. photo ed's won't touch your stuff when they find out...
Totally unrelated, but I was just checking out your site: was that giant backie on the cover of 2020 your shot?
If so: dude! fucking sick!
That building made the best background, and the shot made me smile.
(What happened to the thumbs up emoticon?)
 

AngoXC

Wheel size expert
Completely different subject for a moment:

I had a play with a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 and a Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 (non-HSM) this afternoon, within about 10 minutes of each other...Sorry to be going over shit we've already discussed before...
Trist,
I'm still chasing a 24-70mm (Sig or Nikkor...finances don't permit either at present) and I'll might just add a few things about it.
First, if you are seriously looking at the Sig, make sure you play with the HSM model. I am yet to do this but I can't say I'd pass judgement before trying the HSM. I agree that the focus was great on the non-HSM lens but I have to say that sharpness definatly fell off when extended out (and lets face it, if you're paying for an f/2.8 lens, you want it to work good across all focal lengths). I've read that some people find it soft at the wide end but I couldn't see that for myself to be honest.
Another thing is the filter size. The Sigma is an 82mm taker...so be prepared for more expensive filters.

I played with the non-HSM Sigma and the Nikkor 24-70mm in the same sitting and I have to say there is a huge difference between the two. If you have the money, get the real deal Nikkor stuff. It truely eclipses the Sig in terms of its focal range...but again, finances will strangle you here.

I've never been overly impressed with Tamron
My $0.02

Oh, and photos...


Bali Memorial, Swanston St Melbourne
 

Tristan23

Farkin guerilla
I played with the non-HSM Sigma and the Nikkor 24-70mm in the same sitting and I have to say there is a huge difference between the two. If you have the money, get the real deal Nikkor stuff. It truely eclipses the Sig in terms of its focal range...but again, finances will strangle you here.
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If I had the money i'd definitely be taking the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8, but at $2.5k it's just not that feasible for the moment. :(

I might do some more research via photography forums to get some image samples.

Cheers for the thoughts though dude!
 

wombat

Lives in a hole
You want some samples from the tammy?
I don't have focus charts or any of that jazz, but if you just want some full res shots I'm happy to email some stuff through, just give me an idea of what you'd like to see.
 

saMfish

Likes Dirt
Hey,

I was just wondering if any of you dirty snobs have ever seen this photo and could tell me who the photographer is or any photographers that take photos kinda like it. I know it's a very long shot, but meh.



Thanks in advance.
 

Richo 18

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Intruder alert.
Fark wrongie, your website has some amazing shots in it.
The one of the mountains in two distinct lines is like :eek:
 

Tobe25

Likes Bikes
I'm going to be shooting a lot of dirt jumping on the weekend and was wanting to know whether a tripod would be really necessary? I'm using a 50D with 24-70mm lens...I know it probably seems like a stupid question but it's a longway to travel to find out I would've been better to just buy one.
If I do need one, what would you recommend thats fairly cheap? I'm on a super tight budget at the moment.
 

Callan.

Farkin Gorilla.
I'm going to be shooting a lot of dirt jumping on the weekend and was wanting to know whether a tripod would be really necessary? I'm using a 50D with 24-70mm lens...I know it probably seems like a stupid question but it's a longway to travel to find out I would've been better to just buy one.
If I do need one, what would you recommend thats fairly cheap? I'm on a super tight budget at the moment.
Should be right without one, pretty unnecessary for dirt jumping, especially with a not so long lens.
 

Tristan23

Farkin guerilla
I love you Tristan.

70-200 has been a godsend so far..
Ah ha! Glad it's getting use! Looking forward to seeing your shots!

I'm going to be shooting a lot of dirt jumping on the weekend and was wanting to know whether a tripod would be really necessary? I'm using a 50D with 24-70mm lens...I know it probably seems like a stupid question but it's a longway to travel to find out I would've been better to just buy one.
If I do need one, what would you recommend thats fairly cheap? I'm on a super tight budget at the moment.
Unless you're planning on shooting sequences and stitching them together in Photoshop, you won't need it. As Callan said, without a long, heavy lens, it's pointless. Also, because you'll be boosting the shutter speed to stop the action, it'll freeze any shake you get from your hands.
 

wrongie

Likes Dirt
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a photo with lurkers growing out of the rider's head/shoulder will similarly be discarded. Cloning something like that is so minor and if done well difficult to detect that I find it hard to agree with you.

Sure, big obvious things that leave obvious artifacts are not going to be received well, but I think to say that "photo eds won't touch your stuff" is a bit of a sweeping generalisation.
You're right... rider's heads with an arm or another head won't be looked at anyway. But you're wrong with the "minor cloning".

Imagine this...

You send your sick ass shot into Mag 'A' and have it totally schmick with no imperfections whatsoever. You'd done a little bit of cloning here and there to clean up some empty beers cans, a little bit of flash flare etc. Mag'A' says, SICK. Send me the RAW file so we can run this thing double page. You say, "can't I send you the retouched version?" They say, "nah man, our art director wants to change the colouring on this and they want to get a darker colder feel out of it." So you suck it up and send said art director the shot, and get an email explaining you may have sent the wrong one to them and that it doesn't look like the one they saw in low res. You say "sorry man, i retouched it a little and took out some bits I didn't like before I sent it in." They say nothing, because they didn't email you back.

Hillenbrand will back me up on this one.

If you want shit run, leave a photo in it's original state. If you want to shoot commercial and rely on retouching and layering - that's a different ball game.
 

leitch

Feelin' a bit rrranty
Imagine this...

You send your sick ass shot into Mag 'A' and have it totally schmick with no imperfections whatsoever. You'd done a little bit of cloning here and there to clean up some empty beers cans, a little bit of flash flare etc. Mag'A' says, SICK. Send me the RAW file so we can run this thing double page. You say, "can't I send you the retouched version?" They say, "nah man, our art director wants to change the colouring on this and they want to get a darker colder feel out of it." So you suck it up and send said art director the shot, and get an email explaining you may have sent the wrong one to them and that it doesn't look like the one they saw in low res. You say "sorry man, i retouched it a little and took out some bits I didn't like before I sent it in." They say nothing, because they didn't email you back.
This is not the scenario I imagined in my head last night :p I completely agree with you in that regard. :)
 
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