FR Drew reply 1,
Forward notice sorry about the spelling, I quickly typed this.
Australia was not artificially "created" following the end of the first world war in a move that displaced the people currently living there.
Yes Australia was artificially created just early and you could argue that Israel has more right to exist as it had full UN backing, while Australia didn’t. The English just came here and said bye bye natives we are now going to send all our prisons here and we don’t like the fact that you’re black so we will take you children and educate them to be more “white”. Secondly Israel was created after World War 2 in 1948. Your last statement (“in a move that displaced the people currently living there”) is very strange because last timed I checked Israel population I found that:
That 20% of the population are Israeli Arabs which mainly are Muslims. That’s not including Druze, Samaritans, and Bedouin. Its amazing how Arabs have more rights in Israel than they do in there own countries. If Jews are discriminating against Arab why then are there Arab Muslim Cabinet member such as Nawaf Massalha (Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, since 1999. Arab citizens of Israel have been elected to every Knesset, and currently hold 12 of its 120 seats. Supreme Court: Abdel Rahman Zuabi, a secular Muslim from northern Israel. Arab Generals in the IDF include Major General Hussain Fares, commander of Israel's border police, and Major General Yosef Mishlav, head of the Israeli Home Front Command and current Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories. Jewish National Fund even has a not Jewish director, Ra'adi Sfori. The people that left Israel left because they don’t want to live with there Jewish neighbors. Then you will say arab never killed jewish before Israel was created, think again 1929 Hebron massacre (just one example). What about more than 1 million jewish that were kicked out of there countries in the middle east in 1948 ??? (I bet you never think of that).
It has not since continued to occupy more and more captured territory since then.
I guess your not from South Australia, the Australian government keeps giving permits to mining companies to open mines in aboriginal lands. That defiantly not captured land is it?? Haha. Again I will say Why can Israeli Arabs live in Jewish land while Jewish people cant live in west bank? Don’t tell me Arab were there first because Judaism is a 5000+ year old religion which started in Israel. While Arab religions are 2000 year old (Christianity) and 500+ years old Islam (at it current form).
we do not carpet bomb other countries with cluster bombs deliberately attempting to make as much territory uninhabitable as we can in the days prior to a ceasefire.
Maybe that because Aboriginals are nice people and don’t fire rockets into our city and on prime time TV pray for Jewish death (are there rockets flying into army bases or into city were people have to run for there lives in 15 second). (answer is city’s). I believe your talking about the Lebanon war in 2006 ~ the main reason for using cluster bombs is that they make a huge area un-usable for the enemy. If the enemy ie hezballah would actually fight not hid in tunnels, maybe Israel wouldn’t have to use cluster bombs.
I remember during war in 2006 my friend who is a Lebanese Christian was in Beirut he told me that Israeli army didn’t bomb one building in the Christian area, only the Muslim side. He supported Israel 100%.
we do not starve our neighbors of power
Guess again buddy, I don’t believe you have researched the role Australia play’s in the Asia pacific region. Israel doesn’t starve there neighbors of power. Simply Israeli’s are more educated hence being able to have a good economy (watch the video about the boycotting Israel). Now your going to think Israel gets heaps of Aid money from nations and Jewish people around the world. Yes it does, 5% of it GDP. How ever the West bank and Gaza Aid money is 95% of there GDP. Have a look at there education system they don’t teach children why Israel was created, they don’t teach about the holocaust (they never say 6 million Jews were killed). Prime time TV showing 3 year old Muslim girl saying Jews are pigs and apes, praying for suicide bombings in Israel. These people hate the West, this also includes Australia fellas. If the war stops how will Gaza and West Bank gets its money, ie Hamas!
we do not destroy their infrastructure
Haha. Think again. I guess when the white man came to Australia he never killed an aboriginal, I guess Tasmania aboriginal never existed?? I guess those rockets coming into Israel from Gaza and Lebanon just land safely??
when we give land back to the original inhabitants we do not systematically destroy every single peace of usable asset that we have placed there so as to ensure that nothing we have built can be used by them
Firstly Jews were the original inhabitants of the lands but were kick out many times but always had a presents and always came back. Have you seen photos of Israel in the 1930s and photos of Israel now!! Israel was a desert now it has lots usable agricultural land, due to hard work! In 2005 israel gave governce to the PLO (I have read a great book called Israel lobby, did you know Israel ask Egypt to take gaza under there governce and Egypt said no!), I guess Israel destroyed every thing they had built in Gaza. The state of the art hospitals, legal building in Gaza city, no. Only Jewish areas built in Beit Lahla (mainly) were destroyed.
we do not build walls in their land keeping them from their families
I guess Australian never took aboriginal from there familys?? Read some Australian History mate, I am 1 generation Australian from a Russian family I and I know that. Secondly the walls are a great idea! The English and many old societies used them to keep the enemy out, which has worked. Since the wall has been up there has been no suicide bombing in Israel. Can I ask you a question when you go on a bus or walk in mall are you scared that at any moment with out warning you could die? Remember during this war in Gaza the Israeli army send txt msg to people and drops papers in Arabic warning people to leave.
we do not deliberately target and blow up people attempting to give them aid or medical assistance
Well it has been proven that Hamas uses ambulances and medical trucks to carry rockets and fighters. And again do those rockets land safely in Israel and do Israelis pray for death of Arabs. NO! Because Arabs live in Israel with full rights. Remember the enemy of Israel is Hamas who sole goal is the full destruction of the state of Israel and its people, the Palestinians people are not the enemy.
we do not blow up their hospitals and schools
Again do the rockets just land safely. 8 years of rocket fire. If PNG (which use to be part of Australia) fired 1 rocket at Australia, Australia would respond start away with full force. Secondly it has been proven that Hamas use the Palestinian as human shields firing rockets from near or in hospitals and schools. The only thing I can say the Palestinian are good at is propaganda (they are much better than the Israelis at that).
Most places in the civilized world would agree that the manner in which people deal with their neighbors has moved forwards in the time since WWI.
That’s great because Israel has tried to talk to all arab neighbors and even has embassy’s in all of it neighbors, expect for Syria because they think Israel doesn’t exist, must we smoking a lot of dope since Israel’s economy is 3 times as big as there’s. And during war it has not changed civilians are always killed. A question in World War 2 did the allies just fly over cities and carpet bomb them. Answer: yes.
If I act like a bully and a thug and I damage the houses around me, I expect to be treated like a bully and a thug, especially if my response is always a level of magnitude greater than the incident I am responding to.
I guess when Hamas started firing rockets Israel should have been not said anything or done anything because well frankly jews have been killed from the beginning of time. Why should it stop now. Only 6 million died in world war 2. NO never again, Jews must be strong to protect themselves, they have been strong in 1948, 6 day war and may more. They will be strong and educated forever!
Why is Israel teflon coated so the same standards of acceptable behavior do not apply to them?
Umm they have exactly the same standards of acceptable than every other country. Again what country would wait 8 year after over 10 000+ rockets on just 1 city to attack. I have studied international law and Hamas has clearly broken them as it uses humans are shield it is inflicting suffering to it own people. I bet you didn’t know this more Palestinians are killed between each other than Israelis kill the Palestinians.
I'm quite sure that if Israel pulled back to its 1947 borders and stopped playing bully with the UN support of a US veto every time they were criticized, most people in the area would be willing to allow them to have the land they were lucky to be given (which should be treated as a privilege, not a right).
HAHHAHAHAHA!! Man have you read Hamas mission statement – the full destruction of the state of Israel, this is supported by the majority of arab countries. And it is no luck Jewish people worked hard to make Israel what it is today. No country in the world has done what Israel has done in only 60 years.
“This is not propaganda, this is fact, something that was widely reported even in the right wing side of the US media.”
It funny that people always think the media is protecting Israel because the truth is it not! During the Lebanon war Hezbollah clearly won the propaganda war. Just one of thousands of examples is the Adnan Hajj photographs controversy. Reuters withdrew over 900 photographs by Adnan Hajj, a Lebanese freelance photographer, after he admitted to digitally adding and darkening smoke spirals in photographs of an attack on Beirut. Another example is Photographs submitted to Reuters and Associated Press showed one Lebanese woman mourning on two different pictures taken by two photographers, allegedly taken two weeks apart.
WATCH THE VIDEOS!! Please especially children of Hamas and the Boycotting Israel one (as a user on this forum thought it was a good idea).
I would like to type more but time restricts. And I end with God bless the democratically elected leaders of Australia and Israel.
