ACT FOUND. What to buy / wanted to buy: Prime or Phantom

[kten]

I have a Titan and a Phantom.

Phantom is fun but there are too many times on a ride when I wished I had taken the Titan.

Titan is also fun and very rarely would I wish for the Phantom on a ride.

IMO find a Titan...160 fork and a good shock and it is an incredible all round bike.

 

[Tubbsy]

Phantom is fun but there are too many times on a ride when I wished I had taken the Titan.

This unloved and neglected Phantom isn't an XL perchance?

 

[kten]

This unloved and neglected Phantom isn't an XL perchance?

No sorry. Not for sale this one, it's officially my wife's bike.

 

[beeb]

you running yours in neutral?

According to my average climbing speed, yes.

I like this!

+1.

But I prefer 'portly' thank you.

 

[Rorschach]

you running yours in neutral?

Long dropouts I think, need to check and confirm

Oh I already have 4 pot brakes and a 2.5 DHF up front on the Smuggler, and a heavier "enduro" wheelset. I'm a solid 100kgs and into the whole "fat mans XC" vibe that Downcountry brings

This describes me exactly.

 

[Scotty T]

150 is definitely too much for me, but I will still have no chance keeping up with you anyway whatever I get haha

Yeah my only real short travel bike experience was the Trek Fuel EX 27.5 from 2015 which was not noticably faster climbing than the Bronson but well and truly slower going down, so I'm sure the Phantom is a much more capable thing.

 

[dancaseyimages]

dirtdad looks across the garage at his Prime...
his eyes fall first on the 4 pot gold curas - with their sweet, sweet modulation - he caresses the levers
a recently installed coil peeks out from inside the forged shock cage - the 450lb spring is soft and supple, it glides over rocky terrain and warmly hugs loam-filled corners
the 2.4 tyres come next - he runs his hand over the worn rubber and thinks... wouldn't it be nice to replace you with something stiffer, maybe a DD or SG casing to allow lower some lower pressures - or perhaps I can add an insert instead...
he walks back to his desk - closes his rotorburn tab and sighs
no... the internet would never allow that... it's a trail bike, after all

A bit of Cyclerotica

 

[droenn]

If anyone has some 142mm dropouts to suit a 29er V3 , I may be in the market for them....

 

[HamboCairns]

The Prime has a significantly lower stack height than the Paradox..

 

[Ultra Lord]

The Prime has a significantly lower stack height than the Paradox..

Less of an issue on duel suspension because the rear sags, dropping the seat lower. On a hardtail the bars drop lower than the seat when you sit on it. Unless you run no sag on your fork.

 

[droenn]

Joining the Banshee bros thanks to a couple of 'burners sorting me out with a frame and the dropouts I need.

Will just need to get a new brake hose and chain I think and should be good otherwise.