Anyone been to Machu Pichu or Peru?!

hach_bee

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So! I've decided to lose my travel virginity ;) and head off to South America in November for my 21st! and I have about a billion questions that I would appreciate any help with from anyone who's been there! Or travellers in general :)


Questions!

The hike! How'd you find it, what's the likelihood of rain, how amazing are the views? What should I absolutely take and what can I do without?

Lima/Cuzco, anywhere you'd recommend visiting??

Shopping!! (I am female) what's awesome? where's awesome? and what did you get??

Spanish... how much do I need to know to get by really? Will I look like the dumb foreigner if I don't know much more than greetings, 'I don't understand' and 'How much is it?'.


The length of the stay is gunna depend on if I find more for do over there, I AM going to be on a 12 day tour but that includes two days in Lima free and a day in Cuzco all free reign :D but if I find something more amazing to do, I might consider staying longer...

Thanks in advance !
 

jackmac91

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Well I don't know anything about that area but I've just returned (last week) from living in mexico for 6 months. Depending on the area your in (Touristy or not) english is spoken, some places more-so than others. I lived both in touristy areas and isolated areas in the middle of no-where. None of the locals expect you to know spanish but if you know a little its like a pleasant little surprise to them. They appreciate if you give it a go. for the most part tho you can just waive money and point to things and they get the idea. The mexicans aren't the friendliest of people, not hostile but not friendly. Course that doesn't really apply to where you want to go. Are you going on your own? If so prepare for culture shock! You'll lie there unable to sleep and contemplate exactly how far away from home you really are. Don't worry tho, that goes away as soon as you start to meet new people and make friends! Which is very easy by the way. in the more isolated places, if you run into someone who speaks english, you've just made a friend. As for food and beer, just watch the locals. Wherever they go to eat will be the cheepest and the best food.
Don't by drugs of the street, You might get mugged.
Don't give people money for drugs or anything else in advance, You'll get robbed.
Don't drink tap water, You'll die... or at least you might get sick and be unable to move for a few days.
People WILL try to rip you off in anyway they can if they know your new to an area. don't give that away if you can help it.
keep a reserve of cash just in case. Not likely anything will go wrong but if it does you don't want to be stranded.

Do, take every opportunity you get! (provided it isn't dodgy)
you don't want to go home wishing you had done something but didn't.
Do, go as many different places as you can.
Do, get out of your comfort zone! do shit you wouldn't normaly do. make this your chance to try new things and open yourself up to other ways of life.
Do, talk to as many different people as you can! most people (especialy travelers) have stories to tell and directions to give about cool stuff in any given area.

Most importantly Have the greatest time ever!
 

hach_bee

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Wow! Haha okay I'm going with a school mate, so I won't be too lonely!

No drugs, uh uh not my style.

But thanks for the heads up on everything :D off to practise my spanish...


Any other pointers from people who've been there??
 

Ivan

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I spent about 2 weeks in Peru back in 2005ish, seeing the sights, so things most probably have changed since I was there but....Peru is cool. the hike to Machu Pichu isn't too hard, just be aware there are limited "toilets" along the way. Be prepared to have your mind blown by how cool the Incas were. It is truly a wonder of the world. Women travelling alone are probably the highest risk group for muggings or just generally being takin advantage of, and Peru is not a wealthy country, so just be aware of the risks.
 

hach_bee

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haha cheers Ivan, I am travelling with another (female) mate so we'll be watching our backs, even though we'll be in a group of 8 or so.

'toilets', no problems, I did alot of work with school camps where there were none on our hikes too, I got over that one pretty quick!

Will definitely look up that write up mentioned above :D
 

ajay

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Be weary of Taxis, make sure they're marked, there are countless stories of peopple (locals and tourists) being robbed. Also in Peru, they, for some reason, really dont like taking money (notes) that is ripped or damaged in someway. Weird, but I nearly lost a few hundred pesos that way. U.S currency is appreciated, so keep a bit on you, but in general, local currency is fine.

The more Spanish you know, the better, but dont worry too much.


Huacachina - Just out of Ica. wicked fun, not sure how much time you'll have though.


Sounds like you have a bit of a wirlwind trip, but as Jack said, just have fun, keep your wits about you (dont walk around looking lost with a map etc) and do some things you may not normally do :)
 

ajay

^Once punched Jeff Kennett. Don't pick an e-fight
Ajay (I think) did a write up a few years back on walking the Inca Trail

Wasn't me mate. I've spent some time there though so I may have chimed in on the discussion :)
 

Propagate

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Ah yes, read through this just before :D thanks
Hi hach_bee,

When we moved from the UK to Australia, we thought we'd only do a life-changing move like this once, so why not be adventurous. Neither Emma or I had traveled much as such, so we decided to take the long way over here and came across the USA on a multistop ticket, adding places in between as we went.

The grand plan - http://www.travelblog.org/Europe/Un...h-Yorkshire/North-York-Moors/blog-164251.html

We spent 8 weeks getting here and our trip started with a flight from the UK to Boston, we took the Greyhound from Boston to New York, then onto Philly to catch up with an old mate of mine who lives there, then onto Washington DC to catch up with a friend of Emma's who lives there. From DC we flew to Vegas, (crass but awesome fun), then hired a car and drove to San Francisco via Death Valley and Yosemite. Yosemite is mind-blowing and up on my absolute must see places to go back to. I loved it there.

We organized and pre-booked pretty much everything ourselves, with a little help from Trailfinders, and did the Peru trip with GAP tours, who were superb.

From San Francisco we flew to Lima, via LA. Lima was the start of our GAP organized tour, which included Cuzco, Inca Trail & Amazon Jungle. All of which was totally awesome. The Inca Trail isn't too bad a hike, the altitude can get to you though. We were lucky, no one in our group got really sick, but we passed a few people being led back down to lower altitudes from the affects of altitude sickness. It affects on average 1 in 10 people and does not discriminate in fitness or ability, it's one of those things you'll either get or not. Acclimatisation is key. Cuzco is the highest populated city in the word I seem to remember. You notice the thin air as soon as you get off the plane, so when the guide says take it easy for a couple of days, listen to him. I was felling good by the 2nd day so ran up 4 flights of stairs to our room. I blacked out when I hit the 4th floor landing! The highest point, form memory, is hiking over Dead Womans Pass at something like 4200m

I won't type too much here as it's all in our blog. Feel free to have a read of it, I've direct linked to the Peru parts below. If you have any more questions after reading, I'd be more than happy to help out.

Lima & Cuzco - http://www.travelblog.org/South-America/Peru/Lima/Lima/Miraflores/blog-209599.html

Inca Trail - http://www.travelblog.org/South-America/Peru/Cusco/Inca-Trail/blog-209920.html

Amazon Jungle - http://www.travelblog.org/South-Ame...-Maldonado/Amazon-Rainforest/blog-210245.html

Travel blog - http://www.travelblog.org/Bloggers/Tony---Emma/

We had an absolute ball in Peru, if you can (if you haven't already), try and get into the jungle. Machu Pichu was great, but the jungle was something else!

Language-wise, we'd have struggled a bit if our guide wasnlt around. Not many Peruvians speak English, (as in hardly any at all). A lot of them still speak Ketchuan (sp?) which is their own language, and a lot obvioulsy apeak Spanish. One of the Americans in our group spoke a little Spansigh,which helped a lot.

The biggest surprise was the food. Peruvian food is stunning and apparently world renowned! Who;d have though it/ There were a couple of very nice places to eat in Cuzco with food as good as I've had anywhere.

As others have said, enjoy the place, try and do all the things you want to do and, within reason, take a few opportunities that you wouldn't ordinarly. One of the highlights of our trip was hitting up a casino in Lima one night and spending 5 hours getting smashed for free on the black jack tables. As the minimum bets were so small, $20 USD each saw us playing all night & morning, all the while been fed free beer & whisky, and man, what a fun night and what an eclectic bunch of people we met - from strange locals, to a Lima based Asian "business" couple that were definitely up to no good. It's was all very James Bond. Just be careful though, as Lima can be a dangerous place.

Thanks for starting this thread, you've brought back some awesome memories for me. I want to go and book a long trip now!

Good luck.

EDIT:- There's tons of photos on the blog links, just scroll down to the bottom of each post to get the 'next page' links.
 
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hach_bee

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Thanks for BUNDLES of info, sounds like the GAP tour you did is the same one I'm doing!
Did you get to go pirhana fishing ?? :D

Okay, no sprinting up stairs- check.
Carry packs on front :p will be interesting to see if I can SEE over mine... check.
... Would you recommend walking poles/staff for the descents? I hear they can be pretty brutal on the knees and mine play up in the cold.
SO EXCITED to hear there is a bar at the last campsite ;)

Ps. Would you advise taking a full pack (65L) for the trek or just a day pack (35L size). I'd rather carry my own, feeling bad for the porters but don't want to get caught out with the altitude... On that note, did you take a suitcase with a pack inside it for the trip or just a pack?? Debating whether to go out and get a decent 35L and shove it in my suitcase or just travel with my 65...
 

Ivan

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Thanks for BUNDLES of info, sounds like the GAP tour you did is the same one I'm doing!Did you get to go pirhana fishing ?? :DOkay, no sprinting up stairs- check.Carry packs on front :p will be interesting to see if I can SEE over mine... check.... Would you recommend walking poles/staff for the descents? I hear they can be pretty brutal on the knees and mine play up in the cold.SO EXCITED to hear there is a bar at the last campsite ;)Ps. Would you advise taking a full pack (65L) for the trek or just a day pack (35L size). I'd rather carry my own, feeling bad for the porters but don't want to get caught out with the altitude... On that note, did you take a suitcase with a pack inside it for the trip or just a pack?? Debating whether to go out and get a decent 35L and shove it in my suitcase or just travel with my 65...
Excuse the shithouse punctuation etc, but my iPad is doing weird things on this forum. I took a 70L pack over their as my only pack/case, and if I had my time again I would taken a slightly smaller pack, and lot less shit, and more room for stuff I would have bought over there. It depends on what sort of traveller you are etc, but most of the stuff I took I rarely wore or used. For the Inca trail, we hired lockers at a hostel, and stored most of our crap in there so that our packs only had the necessities in it for the hike. Big packs still aren't great for this sort of thing, so the setup wasn't ideal, but got us by. I ended up buying a smaller day hiking pack in Argentina for a the hikes we were doing. If your with a group, all you'll really need is a big backpack, as the group porters will carry all the food, tents etc. For the trail, the cheap-ass plastic ponchos that the locals sell are the best, they may not breathe, but they keep all the water out. Once you and all your belongings are soaked, it gets harder to keep your spirits up. I went at the start of the wet season, so it may not rain at all for you but I got wet. Have some extra money on you for the end of the trail, as they sell beers (like an oasis in the freaking desert) but also some groups put some money together as a gift to the porters. Have fun.
 

The_NUT

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Hi Hach_bee,

I spent 3 months going through south America at the end of last year. We started in Ecuador and made our way down to Argentina. First off, if you can afford the cash and time, the Galapagos Islands is the most incredible place you will go on gods green earth bar none, full stop, the end.

Peru is a great country and is very touristy so you don't have to stress too much. But you do need to know the basics ie. Giving/asking for directions, prices, greeting, questions etc. Lima is pretty average in my opinion, it's alright but it's just another big city. Not much is special about it, but the food was great. I wouldn't bother spending much time in Lima there are far better places to go. Cusco is a tourist Mecca! It's great but it is incredibly touristy! Some fantastic sights to see here.

The hike itself isn't super strenuous, it's more the altitude that's a killer rather than the distance or terrain. You really do need to spend several days in cusco acclimatizing before you set off. Not only is this a requirement but it's a damn smart idea. The more time you spend acclimatizing before the hike the more youll enjoy it. It's a great hike, it does rain and it does get bloody cold at night. Invest in good goretex shoes, they don't have to be hiking boots but if it rains you'll be glad youve got goretex, I had running shoe style TNF goretex shoes. Invest in a decent weather proof jacket and pack warm clothes for the night. It'd up to you whether you carry your gear or hire a porter, but if you want a porter you must book it when you book the hike because everything is quite closely restricted ie. Number of hikers, porters, carried weights per day etc.

Day 3 over dead woman's pass is a bit tough but it's not a killer. Then it's all down hill (sort of) the the amazing macchu picchu from there. Pictures don't do it justice! It is spectacular and mind boggling! Well worth the hike and you feel like you've earnt it not like the fat American tourists who take the train up.

Next we went to lake titicacca, its worth a look but I certainly wouldn't spend more time there than you need. It's just a bloody big lake. If you get to Bolivia you have to ride death ride near la Paz! It was fricken awesome and really sparked my love of riding again. It's the most dangerous road in the world, 65km long and around 4500m vertical descent with sheer cliffs of 600m drops most of the way down and single lane. Google it, you'll see what I mean.

Anyway I'm done for now, let me know if you've got any more questions, I'm happy to help!
 

Propagate

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Thanks for BUNDLES of info, sounds like the GAP tour you did is the same one I'm doing!
Did you get to go pirhana fishing ?? :D

Okay, no sprinting up stairs- check.
Carry packs on front :p will be interesting to see if I can SEE over mine... check.
... Would you recommend walking poles/staff for the descents? I hear they can be pretty brutal on the knees and mine play up in the cold.
SO EXCITED to hear there is a bar at the last campsite ;)

Ps. Would you advise taking a full pack (65L) for the trek or just a day pack (35L size). I'd rather carry my own, feeling bad for the porters but don't want to get caught out with the altitude... On that note, did you take a suitcase with a pack inside it for the trip or just a pack?? Debating whether to go out and get a decent 35L and shove it in my suitcase or just travel with my 65...
HI,

We took 2 big duffel bag/holdall type things for our whole trip, don't know the liter size, but about the same as a big suitcase.

We packed everything for the USA part of the trip in one bag, and everything for the Peru GAP tour in the other. That way, we only had to keep working out of one bag at a time.

We took a very small day pack each that spent most of it's time packed away in the holdalls.

On the trail, especially as you are going with a tour, you don't need to worry about hiring a porter or worry about what they need to carry. The guide will have already arranged all the porters and they hire enough to cover the group. We had 14 porters for a group of 8 of us, so no need to worry about overloading them. These guys are totally awesome. I raced one for a bit and he shat all over me, I was fit, light pack and proper shoes, he was old, weathered, massive amount of gear on his back and old leather sandals stuffed with straw! He took off and had the lunch stop tent and lunch cooked well before we caught him back up. These guys are seriously awesome.

You hardly need anything for the trek. They will give provide you with a small duffel bag and a weight limit for the porters to carry, (can't remember how much, 7kg seems to ring a bell). You'll leave your main luggage with GAP in Cuzco, then pack some dry warm clothes for sleeping in, toiletries and the sleeping bag, (which you can hire from GAP), in the duffel bag for the porters. In your day pack, you just want a light fleece, water proof, first aid things like compeed blister plasters, pain killers etc and water, (and loo roll). You really don't need to carry much at all with you, nor in the duffel. There's only showers on day 3, (and when I say showers, it's a diverted mountain stream and is the coldest thing on earth, only me and one other guy were brave enough to have a go). You'll basically walk most of the day, get to your pre-arranged night spot where the porters already have dinner on, eat, chat and bed early. You really need very little with you. I think the GAP info has pretty good lists on what to pack for the hike etc?

If you're only doing the GAP tour, I wouldn't bother taking your own sleeping bag. It's so cheap to hire one, and easy as the guide arranges it for you. Just take your own liner, that's all we did. There's a launderette in Cuzco that everyone uses at the end of the hike to launder the hired sleeping bags, so we just washed all our gear there at the same time. It's so cheap

A couple of important things though, pack a head torch in the porters duffel. Also, DO NOT FORGET YOUR PASSPORT. They will check your passport at the start of the hike, if you don't have it, you ain't hiking. We saw one guy get turned away, his group tagged onto to another group and he and his guide high tailed it back to their hotel to get it. I don't know if he made it or not. Also, take plenty of cash. We had not been told about the porters tips, so we struggled to cough enough cash up between us to give a decent tip. If you get onto the GA forums, people can give you an idea of how much to tip, I've forgotten what we tipped, but we ended up only having enough left for about 6 beers between the 8 of us at the last night.

Walking poles - I can't stand them, they just annoy me having to carry them, but then again, my knees are pretty good. Emma and I hired one each, Emma swore by hers, and by the end of the second day she was using both mine and hers as the downhill sections were really killing her knees. She swore she wouldn't have managed without two poles, so my advice is, if you have bad knees then definitely hire a pole.

Oh, and I think they've outlawed piranha fishing....we weren't allowed to do it. Didn't detract form the trip though. We got to canoe across an oxbow lake full of the most amazing fish. Loved it.
 

hach_bee

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Hi Hach_bee,

I spent 3 months going through south America at the end of last year. We started in Ecuador and made our way down to Argentina. First off, if you can afford the cash and time, the Galapagos Islands is the most incredible place you will go on gods green earth bar none, full stop, the end.

Peru is a great country and is very touristy so you don't have to stress too much. But you do need to know the basics ie. Giving/asking for directions, prices, greeting, questions etc. Lima is pretty average in my opinion, it's alright but it's just another big city. Not much is special about it, but the food was great. I wouldn't bother spending much time in Lima there are far better places to go. Cusco is a tourist Mecca! It's great but it is incredibly touristy! Some fantastic sights to see here.

The hike itself isn't super strenuous, it's more the altitude that's a killer rather than the distance or terrain. You really do need to spend several days in cusco acclimatizing before you set off. Not only is this a requirement but it's a damn smart idea. The more time you spend acclimatizing before the hike the more youll enjoy it. It's a great hike, it does rain and it does get bloody cold at night. Invest in good goretex shoes, they don't have to be hiking boots but if it rains you'll be glad youve got goretex, I had running shoe style TNF goretex shoes. Invest in a decent weather proof jacket and pack warm clothes for the night. It'd up to you whether you carry your gear or hire a porter, but if you want a porter you must book it when you book the hike because everything is quite closely restricted ie. Number of hikers, porters, carried weights per day etc.

Day 3 over dead woman's pass is a bit tough but it's not a killer. Then it's all down hill (sort of) the the amazing macchu picchu from there. Pictures don't do it justice! It is spectacular and mind boggling! Well worth the hike and you feel like you've earnt it not like the fat American tourists who take the train up.

Next we went to lake titicacca, its worth a look but I certainly wouldn't spend more time there than you need. It's just a bloody big lake. If you get to Bolivia you have to ride death ride near la Paz! It was fricken awesome and really sparked my love of riding again. It's the most dangerous road in the world, 65km long and around 4500m vertical descent with sheer cliffs of 600m drops most of the way down and single lane. Google it, you'll see what I mean.

Anyway I'm done for now, let me know if you've got any more questions, I'm happy to help!

Okay, having worked in an outdoor store I think Im pretty well kitted up compared to what you guys have suggested! Already got a decent rain jacket, (breatheable one), TNF Gore shoes (but Im considering scarpas cos my hedgehogs are getting old), thermals (merinos) and I'm DEFINITELY bringing my own sleeping bag (call me germ phobic, but it's pretty small and damn warm anyway!). Head torch I have, but it broke early this year, might need to look at another... PASSPORT haha I'd hope to not forget that one :D

Also thanks for mentioning the GA forums, I'll check that out! Keep them coming guys!
 

hach_bee

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Thanks Wes, replied back!

woah. My wife and kids just mentioned going to Peru... signs are all pointing :D
 
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