Russia Vs. America; Here we go again kids!

safreek

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Yes because that is also how you can expose miss information and get to the truth. Are you unable to hear an opinion you don’t agree with on a show that for the most part is people expressing opinions as questions?
Like Facebook, agree or be cast out
 

jrewing

Eats Squid
Again, the similarities with post 1949 China are stark:

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Well socialism is well and truly the current vogue among the mainstream of Western influencers at the moment would you say?

I think people like Pol Pot for example could be savages with any doctrine.
Putin is definitely early last century isnt he.
Johnny, how long do you see this conflict going on? Seems 100yrs of angst has finally come to the fore, which could be a final resolve?
No two ways, this is a defining moment in Russian political history happening.
 

Nambra

Definitely should have gone to specsavers
Haven't posted here as I don't think I have the same grasp of the geopolitics as others, but have been following the commentary regardless.

It definitely seems like there aren't any de-escalation / withdrawal options for Putin that won't make him look weak; the guy has to go all in, win or lose. His comments in the media are becoming more cryptic too - is he of sound mind I wonder?
 

rockmoose

his flabber is totally gastered
Very few Russian leaders are of sound mind, particularly as they age. I'm not saying that to be flippant. Whether it's a result of too much homemade vodka, or the knowledge that they are pulling the wool over the collective minds of the Russian masses weighing on their conscience, I don't know.
 

safreek

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Was just privileged enough to watch insiders/outsiders whatever on sky.
Seems Greta strumborg is to blame if ww3 happens. It seems the Russians have been influencing politics of the looney left and their greenhouse gas policies so they dominate Europe power supplies.
Now EU can't turn the taps off regardless of what Russia does unless they wish to suffer. This has emboldened count Vlad to do his little foray into invading little countries

I love that sort of reporting
 

rockmoose

his flabber is totally gastered
Was just privileged enough to watch insiders/outsiders whatever on sky.
Seems Greta strumborg is to blame if ww3 happens. It seems the Russians have been influencing politics of the looney left and their greenhouse gas policies so they dominate Europe power supplies.
Now EU can't turn the taps off regardless of what Russia does unless they wish to suffer. This has emboldened count Vlad to do his little foray into invading little countries

I love that sort of reporting
Sky news does great satire. It's just a shame their viewers don't view it as such.
 

safreek

*******
Sky news does great satire. It's just a shame their viewers don't view it as such.
Mate, I only discovered that channel about 2 years ago. I actually thought it was some sort of political satire show. I soon discovered they were for real. Eye opener.

Seems that once brainwashed it's there for life.
In my younger years I worked for a fella that was in the Hitler youth, defence of Berlin at 13. He still believed they right even in the 80s. It's a hard brainset to change.
 

fatboyonabike

Captain oblivious
once the Russians finally get their Missile trucks and heavy support vehicles back on the road, (not running the DD casings), I think they will have a good go at encircling the country, cutting off all supply lines in or out of Ukraine, this will bring the country to its knees.
Its a race to see if Russia can keep it together, and try to convince their first lot of troops to hold in there and set up logistic support long enough for the bulk of the proper Russian forces to come in behind, or hopefully the Ukranians with western support can hold the red cunts on the line without taking key strongholds and logistic routes..
Its clear that Putin liked it better hiding behind the Iron curtain!
 

wornoutwords

Likes Dirt
It's a surreal feeling watching this happen in real time - it's like seeing something happen that'll shape the world for decades.

I reckon a lot of the western action has been brewing for a while - they were just waiting for an excuse to do something about all the radiation assassinations taking place on their turf, interference and state run ransomware attacks. The invasion is something that russia can't "i didnt do it"

I was born in poland when it was still a soviet puppet state and thinking back to all the stories i heard from rellies who were based in the east (in what was poland after ww1 and is now ukraine/russia).. when an area was taken over anyone that was anyone (civic, military leaders etc) was disposed, others were forced out (with a receipt for a house/business based on what was seized from them if you were lucky) and the area was russiafied with imports taking over the farms and businesses, changing the demographics (and allowing the 'what do you mean, this has always been russia/youre being mean to russians' retort). Anyone stuck in a city that gets taken over is pretty fucked
 

Haakon

has an accommodating arse
Mate, I only discovered that channel about 2 years ago. I actually thought it was some sort of political satire show. I soon discovered they were for real. Eye opener.

Seems that once brainwashed it's there for life.
In my younger years I worked for a fella that was in the Hitler youth, defence of Berlin at 13. He still believed they right even in the 80s. It's a hard brainset to change.
I visited an elderly great aunt in Berlin when I was there in 1999, and she was very proud indeed of her time in the Hitler Youth. We decided it was probably not worth the effort to mention that Kirsty is Jewish...
 

Plankosaurus

Spongeplank Dalepantski
It's a surreal feeling watching this happen in real time - it's like seeing something happen that'll shape the world for decades.

I reckon a lot of the western action has been brewing for a while - they were just waiting for an excuse to do something about all the radiation assassinations taking place on their turf, interference and state run ransomware attacks. The invasion is something that russia can't "i didnt do it"

I was born in poland when it was still a soviet puppet state and thinking back to all the stories i heard from rellies who were based in the east (in what was poland after ww1 and is now ukraine/russia).. when an area was taken over anyone that was anyone (civic, military leaders etc) was disposed, others were forced out (with a receipt for a house/business based on what was seized from them if you were lucky) and the area was russiafied with imports taking over the farms and businesses, changing the demographics (and allowing the 'what do you mean, this has always been russia/youre being mean to russians' retort). Anyone stuck in a city that gets taken over is pretty fucked
It really is a tumultuous area, from the very basic overviews i've seen i dont think they've ever really had anything you could call stability. Having some heritage there myself, anything that i hear from there usually piques my interest. do you know of any "in a nutshell" info regarding the last 100 odd years of borders and takeovers around there that someone with a minute attention span could digest? i think i know some things but i'm not sure how much i've twisted around and got ass about with all the years of brain cell abuse.

(grandfather was born in central Poland, grandmother in part of Poland thats now Ukraine, both made it through ww2 and came here in the late 50s)
 

safreek

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I visited an elderly great aunt in Berlin when I was there in 1999, and she was very proud indeed of her time in the Hitler Youth. We decided it was probably not worth the effort to mention that Kirsty is Jewish...
Probably not. True brain washing from birth is pretty much set
 
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