Ultra Lord
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Have you seen vitals review of the phantom?Get out of my head!
Maybe I should ask Hambo for help deciding?
Have you seen vitals review of the phantom?Get out of my head!
Maybe I should ask Hambo for help deciding?
Yep, if you mean the round up oneHave you seen vitals review of the phantom?
Just reading this and there are a few local places that can wrap your frame in a completely different colour if you choose to do.Ok real issues.
Banshee are only doing raw frames at the moment, which means if go with a Phantom the red accents and my current green components would be... interesting.
Prime with the black (or dark grey?) accents will work much better.
IS THIS WHAT IT HAS COME TO?
I still reckon a prime would be the go to for canvegas.Yep, if you mean the round up one
This is a good one too: https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2021-banshee-phantom-v3
If you do all that then you really wanted an enduro bike to begin with and had commitment issues.My vote stays with the Phantom. You go to the Prime and then you end up with a 150/160mm fork so then you're like "hmm... probably need 2.5" tyres and a cushcore then huh? and 4 pot brakes. probably need to get a coil shock also" and then before you know it you're riding an enduro bike you didn't want.
You go to the Prime and then you end up with a 150/160mm fork so then you're like "hmm... probably need 2.5" tyres and a cushcore then huh? and 4 pot brakes. probably need to get a coil shock also" and then before you know it you're riding an enduro bike you didn't want.
dirtdad looks across the garage at his Prime...If you do all that then you really wanted an enduro bike to begin with and had commitment issues.
150mm travel absolutely is the sweet spot on the V2 Prime I feel..Jokes aside, I'm probably going to end up with a longer fork on my Prime than the 140mm I have as I keep clipping pedals on XC loops
That was a rollercoaster ridedirtdad looks across the garage at his Prime...
his eyes fall first on the 4 pot gold curas - with their sweet, sweet modulation - he caresses the levers
a recently installed coil peeks out from inside the forged shock cage - the 450lb spring is soft and supple, it glides over rocky terrain and warmly hugs loam-filled corners
the 2.4 tyres come next - he runs his hand over the worn rubber and thinks... wouldn't it be nice to replace you with something stiffer, maybe a DD or SG casing to allow lower some lower pressures - or perhaps I can add an insert instead...
he walks back to his desk - closes his rotorburn tab and sighs
no... the internet would never allow that... it's a trail bike, after all
140mm is a touch short. Fine on downhills, but a bit of a pain on the rocky stuff here. I reckon 150mm would be perfect150mm travel absolutely is the sweet spot on the V2 Prime I feel..
Can I have a sample of whatever you're smokin'?dirtdad looks across the garage at his Prime...
his eyes fall first on the 4 pot gold curas - with their sweet, sweet modulation - he caresses the levers
a recently installed coil peeks out from inside the forged shock cage - the 450lb spring is soft and supple, it glides over rocky terrain and warmly hugs loam-filled corners
the 2.4 tyres come next - he runs his hand over the worn rubber and thinks... wouldn't it be nice to replace you with something stiffer, maybe a DD or SG casing to allow lower some lower pressures - or perhaps I can add an insert instead...
he walks back to his desk - closes his rotorburn tab and sighs
no... the internet would never allow that... it's a trail bike, after all
Yep, stack and BB too low but it's still great fun.140mm is a touch short. Fine on downhills, but a bit of a pain on the rocky stuff here. I reckon 150mm would be perfect
Stack is fine, but yeah BB a touch low.Yep, stack and BB too low but it's still great fun.
160mm slackened out coil beast is also another. It's so versatile.
To OP it's very subjective. There's overlap between them and I think it depends on where your focus is going to be.
Don't underestimate the pedalling ability of the Prime, or the capability of the Phantom in chunk.
Oh I already have 4 pot brakes and a 2.5 DHF up front on the Smuggler, and a heavier "enduro" wheelset. I'm a solid 100kgs and into the whole "fat mans XC" vibe that Downcountry bringsMy vote stays with the Phantom. You go to the Prime and then you end up with a 150/160mm fork so then you're like "hmm... probably need 2.5" tyres and a cushcore then huh? and 4 pot brakes. probably need to get a coil shock also" and then before you know it you're riding an enduro bike you didn't want.
150 is definitely too much for me, but I will still have no chance keeping up with you anyway whatever I get hahaPrime all the way. I feel like 150 is the minimum rear travel I would ever have now after riding the Titan and a few years on the Bronson both at 150. When it gets rough at speed the little bit extra just means the bike is less unsettled.
Yeah, this is my conclusion, they are both going to be awesome, and will have different strengths for some things and after settling in to the bike its probably not going to matter as much as I'm making it out to be in my head.To OP it's very subjective. There's overlap between them and I think it depends on where your focus is going to be.
Don't underestimate the pedalling ability of the Prime, or the capability of the Phantom in chunk.
you running yours in neutral?Stack is fine, but yeah BB a touch low.
Agree on climbing on the Prime, I found it easier than my old hardtail!
I like this!into the whole "fat mans XC" vibe that Downcountry brings