Who has coiled a Prophet

[safreek]

OK, I have found the right size prophet finally and wish to coil it instead of air shock.
I have been led to believe that it takes a 200x50 shock. After much googling I am now more confused than ever (if possible)

Some of the reading says that they won't fit a fox shock, any reason why.

If any of you have run a coil on one of these frames could you tell me what shock you used..
Thanks

 

[Dales Cannon]

Your religious views are going to get you into trouble one of these days

 

[moorey]

First google link talks about numerous coil shocks.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cannondale-prophet-rear-shock-advice/

 

[safreek]

First google link talks about numerous coil shocks.
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/cannondale-prophet-rear-shock-advice/

This was the first one I came across. From there it was all downhill. That's why I am hoping someone on here may have done it.
Seems there are many options but where rub, blah blah blah happens

What Rear Shock Sizes Would Fit the Prophet? (other then...

www.mtbr.com

 

[moorey]

This was the first one I came across. From there it was all downhill. That's why I am hoping someone on here may have done it.
Seems there are many options but where rub, blah blah blah happens

What Rear Shock Sizes Would Fit the Prophet? (other then...

www.mtbr.com

Not sure why conflicting opinions from burners would carry any more weight than real life experiences from others though.
200x57 will be a lot more common than 50 in coil. I suspect that is more of the issue (with no reason other than a hunch)

 

[safreek]

Not sure why conflicting opinions from burners would carry any more weight than real life experiences from others though.
200x57 will be a lot more common than 50 in coil. I suspect that is more of the issue (with no reason other than a hunch)

OK, so I'm fine with 200x57. One more question.
People talk about linear stroke or whatnot but in all honesty I am not a super hardcore rider, mainly xc with a little bit of rock descent, small descents. When I get to the city a bit of stairs and smaller jumps but no more than 2 or 3 foot.
Am a really going to notice much difference by paying for shimming and other upgrades?
I have whacked miscellaneous shocks on frames that probably were not suited to them and have noticed no real difference

 

[safreek]

Your religious views are going to get you into trouble one of these days

I am known for my blasphemy, sad but true

 

[safreek]

And is there any reason that a fox coil wouldn't fit.

 

[leitch]

OK, so I'm fine with 200x57. One more question.
People talk about linear stroke or whatnot but in all honesty I am not a super hardcore rider, mainly xc with a little bit of rock descent, small descents. When I get to the city a bit of stairs and smaller jumps but no more than 2 or 3 foot.
Am a really going to notice much difference by paying for shimming and other upgrades?
I have whacked miscellaneous shocks on frames that probably were not suited to them and have noticed no real difference

What wasn't readily available when Prophets were current but is now, is a progressive spring. Probably your easiest/cheapest option to offset the digressive rate of the Prophet.

Cane Creek VALT Lightweight Progressive Rear Shock Spring

Many bikes on the market can suffer from a lack of progression in their suspension design, making them unsuited to coil shocks as they can blow through their travel too easily. Up until recently the only way to address this was to fit a spring that was too stiff and sacrifice small bump...

www.mtbdirect.com.au

 

[leitch]

And is there any reason that a fox coil wouldn't fit.

If you read some of the posts in the MTBR thread you'll see that a Fox coil shock will fit, but only in the "XC" setting. The spring seat hits the swingarm and prevents you aligning the eyelet with the bolt hole in FR mode.

 

[Lucaw]

if you are putting a dhx coil on it, put 200psi in the piggyback, and/or a progressive spring as @leitch has linked

 

[moorey]

if you are putting a dhx coil on it, put 200psi in the piggyback, and/or a progressive spring as @leitch has linked

Piggyback pressure on the Fox will effect the pedalling and platform (LSC) more than anything else….at least that’s my understanding as how it applies to shocks like my DHX’s

 

[safreek]

What wasn't readily available when Prophets were current but is now, is a progressive spring. Probably your easiest/cheapest option to offset the digressive rate of the Prophet.

Cane Creek VALT Lightweight Progressive Rear Shock Spring

Many bikes on the market can suffer from a lack of progression in their suspension design, making them unsuited to coil shocks as they can blow through their travel too easily. Up until recently the only way to address this was to fit a spring that was too stiff and sacrifice small bump...

www.mtbdirect.com.au

By god, 160 for a spring. That's about half my budget

 

[moorey]

By god, 160 for a spring. That's about half my budget

You were planning to spend $320 on a spring?

 

[Minlak]

You were planning to spend $320 on a spring?

I assume he meant as he intends to flip it for the $400 its worth he can only spend $320 in total on the bike

 

[safreek]

I assume he meant as he intends to flip it for the $400 its worth he can only spend $320 in total on the bike

Yes, yes indeedy. Finally someone who gets it

 

[leitch]

By god, 160 for a spring. That's about half my budget

If you want to save money, you could just not try to make it to work with a coil shock it's not designed for.

 

[safreek]

If you want to save money, you could just not try to make it to work with a coil shock it's not designed for.

Yeah, but this is me you are talking to
Coils just look better.
Don't get me wrong, if I have to I will go air, anything has to be better than an old radium shock that is probably 15 years old

 

[leitch]

Yeah, but this is me you are talking to
Coils just look better.
Don't get me wrong, if I have to I will go air, anything has to be better than an old radium shock that is probably 15 years old

Yeah look, that Radium is definitely going to be shite. But 200x50/57 is a super common shock size, you should have no diffculty getting a decent condition DPX2 or Monarch Plus in that size for <$300. Then you know it will fit, you can easily adjust the spring rate without having to fork out $$ for different springs trying to find the sweet spot, and you'll be able to make use of the adjustable geo settings too.

Or just buy whatever random shit coil you can find, angle grind down the swingarm to make it fit and butcher an old classic frame you've been hankering after for years. Up to you.

 

[beeb]

Yeah look, that Radium is definitely going to be shite. But 200x50/57 is a super common shock size, you should have no diffculty getting a decent condition DPX2 or Monarch Plus in that size for <$300. Then you know it will fit, you can easily adjust the spring rate without having to fork out $$ for different springs trying to find the sweet spot, and you'll be able to make use of the adjustable geo settings too.

Or just buy whatever random shit coil you can find, angle grind down the swingarm to make it fit and butcher an old classic frame you've been hankering after for years. Up to you.

One of those options is classified under "Unbackable odds".