Thredbo - novice all mountain perspective

matharvey

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Hey all,

I have just returned from an epic mtb road trip, the pinical of which as a couple of days riding the lifts at Thredbo, thought I would share the experience to perhaps inspire more folk to head out for a look.

The Riders:

Mat - Average XC mountain biker that watches far too many downhill movies and fancies him self a bit of hell man (in real life this notion is laughable). Has minimal shuttle downhill experience and usually spends some time walking down the track rather than riding.

Clive - Bit of an all mountain rider - will wipe the floor with Mat until they reach the 50km mark of a ride then fades like a cheap t-shirt. Is a regular and spectacular crasher - almost always gauranteed a good show following him (if you can keep up). Has never riden shuttle or lift assisted downhill in his life. Is (was) a firm believer in ONE saddle position.

The Bikes:

The biggest (and only) off road bikes we own - a 6 inch Santa Cruz Nomad and a 7inch Yeti Seven.

Thredbo Day One:

We arrived late in the day. Checked into to our lift - side accommodation and beelined for the pub. After sinking a few cool lagers gazing upon the mountain we decided to take a walk up the downhill track. We made it maybe 800 meters, breathing heavy we looked at each other with wide eyes and remarked - steep isn't it... Decided to sit there finish our beer and admire the view. Clive stated that the saddle was staying put and NOT going down.

Up early the first day saw us dusting off the aftermath of the pub and kitting up in full face helmets and leg guards for the induction. We where given a talk about the trail not being smooth and then we were (group of about 9 riders) escorted over to a large stair case and told to ride down them … we did this. Everyone was very quiet, obviously not wanting to crash in front of all the other downhill cyclists. After a few nail biting runs down the stair case we were ushered over to a rock wall and told to ride off it (like a steep rock garden). Everyone completed this. I would be lying if I said I wasn’t just a little bit scared at this stage.

We where taught the ways of the chair lift and up we went, one person per chair. Clive and I were in sequential chairs nervously clutching our very small bikes (the smallest there). We had an 11 minute trip to contemplate the ride down… and try not to wet our pants… at the top we listened to more talk about what to expect… The talk went a lot like … 'not that hard'… 'should be able to roll over everything'.. etc etc. I think during the chair lift ride something in Clive changed cause at the top he was jamming his carbon fiber seat post as far into the frame as it would go and muttering something about sawing the post shorter.

The start is a fire trail with killer water bars … quite steep.. it was here that we later learned that Clive would need to take a break to allow the fire in his break pads to extinguish before we could continue down the hill. From there on the trail was basically very very rough and most of the time the rock gardens, while rollable, where so steep that Clive got the crutch of his shorts caught between the seat stay brace and his rear tire! A bracing moment no doubt. The bottom half contained a very steep scary looking rock garden (still not sure how i didn't crash though it) and some really fast traverse sections. We reached the bottom of the mountain, our induction was over and the first thing I did was head back over to the shop and hire full body armor. Then I went to the toilet…

Up we went again and slowly piece by piece learnt the track. We had to stop a minimum of 3 times on the way down for 3 reasons:

1. Clive's breaks had caught fire again… (not literally) but had stopped working due to heat,

2. Our arms, legs, core muscles and lungs conspired against us to the point we (by we, I mean me) thought we might vomit. Really, downhilling is much much much more physically (all over) demanding that ANY cross country race I’ve done… I have a new respect for downhill athletes. Possible the strongest, fittest cyclists in the world.

3. I had suffered one of 5 flat tires I got during 2 days of down hill (no really XC tires are not suitable for downhill riding).

We survived the first day, over all our adrenal glands where totally withered and spent, our pupils so dilated we wondered if we would ever go back to normal, our eyes dry from lack of blinking. We headed back to the pub for more larger and jager bombs to celebrate not dying on our first ever day of downhill. We did meet a crew from Brissy (thanks to Clive's 'for the riders' jersy)... good folk, much faster than us! - if you are reading this shout out, would love to tag along on some more rides locally.

Th second day dawned and we were super keen, far less scared and ready to roll. Clive decided to ride all the A lines (minus a gap jump into corner) while I started a little more hesitantly. Eventually i got there gingerly riding the A lines, crashing more often than not. Every now and then we where totally blown away by some kid half our age jumping and whipping it over a A line with style... the very A line that had claimed most off the skin off my right ankle.

The fastest speed we hit on the track was about 46 km / h (thanks to my downhill GPS) … at which point I was having a really hard time hanging onto the bars. There was a couple of sections we tried to master… both of us crashed repeatedly … body armor did its job. It took us about 20 mins to decend… the top racers do it in 6 -7 minutes. I managed to destroy my rear shock. No matter what the sales person tells you … rock shox monarch’s are not suitable for downhill….

Was it good… GOD YES… would I do it again… IN A HEARTBEAT….

If you are looking for a week long Mountain Biking holiday i would recommend heading here no matter what your mountain biking skill level is like (well to an extent).

Some photos from the trip:



Body Armor On, thumbs up, belly out - CHECK.



Grab the bike like this, Pedal goes here, and bingo... we are off!



Funny how photos make things look not steep.



Survived!
 

Mobywan

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Awesome read mate. Made me laugh a couple of times.

Thanks for sharing the story and being so honest.... great stuff. :D
 

evObda2

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Good to hear you gave it a go and had a good time!
Me and a mate were down on Saturday (luckily got perfect conditions).

We were talking to two guys who had come down to try it out for the first time also who were actually road cyclists. They had a great time. Goes to show just about anyone can have a go!
 

Regan

Eats Squid
Bah...Bloody Downhill...lazy man’s sport, you just roll down the hill, no fitness needed at all! HAHAHA!!! Awesome read! Glad you have finally found out what downhill is all about. Thredbo is probably the most physically demanding track (also up there in terms of technical challenge) on the Australian circuit so by the sound of it you did pretty well for a first timer.
 

driftking

Wheel size expert
Really, downhilling is much much much more physically (all over) demanding that ANY cross country race I’ve done… I have a new respect for downhill athletes. Possible the strongest, fittest cyclists in the world.
Good to hear people who have done both acknowledge it.Riding DH mostly I deffinatly also respect the fitness xc riders have to put out hundreds of k's in competitive times.

really good read about your experience down there, its a brillant track, sucks to hear about your rear shock been destroyed but seems like you thorght it was well worth it in the end.Good to hear from a "novice" riding thredbo, there have been so many threads iv read about people looking for this type of information.
Been to thredbo I wouldnt say its overly steep but it is very physically demanding however than I here feed back from overseas riders about how much more physical and how insanly steep the tracks overseas are, once again really grounds the amount of fitness and dedication it takes to do well in DH.

How was the weather for you while you were there?
Last time I went the weather was good but by time you were at the top your fingers were frozen with windchill, then at the bottom its 30degrees.
 
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stinkytodamax

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Great read mate

Having done the novice trip to Thredbo around 2003 I know what you mean by intimidating.

Three of us headed up with two bikes and the idea of hiring a 5 inch travel craftworks that the shop used to use as hire bikes. This craftworks was by far the best bike we had which was a concern.

here's what I rode. see attached.

Actually thats not quite right it had 100mm travel forks and cable disc brakes at the time. I think I put on some 2.5 Toiga White Tigers on it for more grip. Turns out grip didnt matter to much when you have the brakes jammed on and forearms that dont work. I did however get lucky some nice downhill rider took pity on me and thought it a laugh to take my Kona Stuff for a run and lend me his Stab Deluxe, one run of glory on that thing and I knew I had brought the wrong machine.

I wasnt as bad as my mate who was just new to MTB and took his Felt flat bar XC bike with 80mm of Rock Shox elastomer dampend travel. He kept on coming off and I couldnt figure out why. He was so green he was using the front brake to much and throwing himself over the bars every steep section.

After the first day we were all a bit broken and lucky for us the whether turned sour for the second day and we got a voucher to come back another day.

That other day I was armed with my new Kona Stinky and body armour.
 

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DHdreamer

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Bring on this weekend!

I'm even more pumped about heading down this weekend after reading this thread! Great original post! :D
 

Puddleduck

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Good read. I'm planning on doing a weekend run over there shortly. I've checked out some lodge accomodation via the Thredbo website. Any recommendations on where to stay?
 

matharvey

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We just rolled into town and went straight to the tourist place. THey sorted us with a serviced apartment. Not cheap, but nice.. and 2 mins roll from the lift. :)
 

chica

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that is classic. I was there last weekend with a couple of guys, for my first experience at Thredbo DH. Saturday morning I practiced on the skills course and made it down all 3 lines. Went to sign up and heard the guys saying it was wet and muddy on the track so I decided to leave it till Sunday, hoping that the weather would stay dry. Sunday morning awoke to dry conditions and what ended up being a perfect sunny day. There were 4 of us in my induction, 2 kids (I am old enough to be their mother) and another teenager. There were a bunch of guys down their practicing for the Nationals in a few weeks, man they can fly! The way they ride, you'd swear they were connected with their bike!.
A great experience that will only benefit my XC and trail riding skills. I will be back for the next season and bringing other girls with me.
 

chica

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Good read. I'm planning on doing a weekend run over there shortly. I've checked out some lodge accomodation via the Thredbo website. Any recommendations on where to stay?
we stayed at Alpine Apartments on the weekend and got a 2bedrm apartment (1 qn, 2 singles and a sofa bed) for $147 a night (3 for price of 2). Self contained with balcony looking straight up the mtb. Great location - straight across the road from the lift which is handy for lunch stops etc, onsite parking (many don't have this). Suggest taking your own food and bev though as it is like any other ski village, expensive!
Check on wotif and then call Thredbo Accom as they will usually match or better the price
 
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