Interesting what Yamaha is doing

[bigdamo]

And there making MTB suspension.

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[andrew9]

Using the idler in a high pivot bike for the motor isn't that bad of an idea, I guess.
I'm not sure about using an 8 tooth sprocket, I'm also not sure about everything else on that bike

 

[bigdamo]

Using the idler in a high pivot bike for the motor isn't that bad of an idea, I guess.
I'm not sure about using an 8 tooth sprocket, I'm also not sure about everything else on that bike

It's still in development.

 

[fatboyonabike]

Using the idler in a high pivot bike for the motor isn't that bad of an idea, I guess.
I'm not sure about using an 8 tooth sprocket, I'm also not sure about everything else on that bike

if its only an idler, I can't see why it would make a difference?..quite a lot of things going on behind it to be just an idler!

 

[andrew9]

The motor has replaced the idler.
There would normally be a sprocket there on a high pivot bike to manage the pedalling forces, the motor is now using that sprocket to power the bike.

It has some merit, if they don't integrate the bottom bracket like most mainstream ebikes, it would simplify things and should be cheaper.
It could possibly be easier to service, and more durable with only one seal. That seal is higher too, so not going to get splashed as much

 

[Mattyp]

Not too different to the Rocky mountain drive system, they still have an idler but an extra mini chainring between it and the chainring.

 

[ozzybmx]

Current Yamaha have a run on effect on their Syncdrive motors, that little idler would have some torque on it if its driving, wouldn't like to get a finger in there.

All current pedelec bikes have a free spinning chainring on the drive.

 

[danncam]

But WTF is this abomination...drop bar E MTB gravel commuter???
There's ugly and then there is this

 

[Mattyp]

@rockmoose they made it... your dream bike

 

[Oddjob]

But WTF is this abomination...drop bar E MTB gravel commuter???
There's ugly and then there is this

Is that a USD KYB fork?

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[rockmoose]

@rockmoose they made it... your dream bike

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[The Duckmeister]

But WTF is this abomination...drop bar E MTB gravel commuter???
There's ugly and then there is this

Don't forget the aero bars.....
Fuck, I thought Mondrakers looked munted enough!

We REALLY need that spew emoji back!!

 

[Dales Cannon]

My vote for ugliest bike that isn't an Orange.

 

[The Duckmeister]

I dunno, that thing makes Oranges almost look good.......

 

[pink poodle]

if its only an idler, I can't see why it would make a difference?..quite a lot of things going on behind it to be just an idler!

So many idlers attached to suspension platforms that probably don't need them. This looks like one of them.

I like the colour.

 

[Jabubu]

But WTF is this abomination...drop bar E MTB gravel commuter???
There's ugly and then there is this

If you look at details rather than the entire bike then it's actually not bad.

No chainslap, no internal headset routing, dynamos, bikepacking racks, nicely placed lights, multi position hand support. The fork and colours are a bit shit but I reckon this would be a whole lot better with a nicer fork and better colours.

 

[Dales Cannon]

I dunno, that thing makes Oranges almost look good.......

Let's call it a draw.

 

[yuley95]

I’m less concerned with the idler and more concerned with power steering on a mtb. I know wheelbases are getting long but I can still park mine easy enough.

 

[danncam]

If you look at details rather than the entire bike then it's actually not bad.

No chainslap, no internal headset routing, dynamos, bikepacking racks, nicely placed lights, multi position hand support. The fork and colours are a bit shit but I reckon this would be a whole lot better with a nicer fork and better colours.

AND two wheel drive that is so completely unnecessary

 

[dirtdad]

No chainslap, no internal headset routing, dynamos, bikepacking racks, nicely placed lights, multi position hand support. The fork and colours are a bit shit but I reckon this would be a whole lot better with a nicer fork and better colours.

OMG you’re right.

They listened to the internet bike forums… but ALL of them!