Claiming a bike as a tax deductable item

LukeB

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I'm over here on a working visa from the UK. Just found out I can claim items bought for work back on tax. Does that mean I could buy a bike here to get to work (as opposed to the bus or train) and claim it back on tax when I leave? Or will the government just tell me to naff off?
 

Renegade

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I'de say they'de tell you to piss off because it is a luxury - you do not need the bike to get to work.. it is an option but can be used for something else rather than the train or bus.
 

t

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you can depreciate it, I think it has to be over $1000 and you can de-value it each year. Don't know the specifics but I've done that for the last few years.
 

demo man

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I'd say you should ask an accountant or lawyer in the UK rather than beleive us. ;)


You may be able to do it, but you'll probably have to do it in a particular way etc.
 

spyder6052

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it depends, if you use your bike for actual work purposes (eg a bike courier)you would be able to claim on it as it is a tool for your job but if its just for getting to and from work then no you cant
 

PINT of Stella. mate!

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Claiming back tax on the working holiday visa's a tricky one. Technically all you're really allowed to claim back is any superannuation paid during the year. Having said that though, if you were canny and ticked the Resident for the purposes of taxation box on the tax form you fill out prior to any job, you should be able to wing a claim through and get a payment without too many questions being asked.

Your bike'll be a no-goer but as an example, if you have to wear overalls or a uniform of any kind (that includes logo'd polo shirts) you can claim back laundry fees which is about 150 bucks -no receipt req'd. Depending on your job you might be able to claim a shiteload of other goodies too.

BTW if anybody objects to this on the grounds of "it's my taxes that are funding all this", you should see how much my aussie and kiwi mates scammed out of the British Government and various credit card and travel insurance companies whilst they were backpacking in the UK - it works both ways ;)
 

cjaty

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New a guy a few years back who grew cotton and bought a DH COMP to use when he went to check the waters.As far as I know he claimed it.He never used it for anything else of course.RIGHT?
 

scblack

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it depends, if you use your bike for actual work purposes (eg a bike courier)you would be able to claim on it as it is a tool for your job but if its just for getting to and from work then no you cant
Thats about right.:)

As for how the visa complicates matters, I have no idea.
 

ja_har

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Tax Deduction

To claim as a tax deduction it has to be used to generate taxable income, transport to and from your place work is not counted as generating taxable income, merely transport to your place of work.

So no you cannot claim it as a tax deduction.

But.... if it was used to generate income, ie a bike courier or a professional cyclist, then a bike becomes tax deductable.

Otherwise, wouldn't we all be doing it!:p
 

Drizz

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New a guy a few years back who grew cotton and bought a DH COMP to use when he went to check the waters.As far as I know he claimed it.He never used it for anything else of course.RIGHT?
Yep, got to get the ute to get up the hill to check the water at the top, ride down on a DH Comp to check it at the bottom, rinse and repeat every 15mins and claim both the ute and DH Comp for tax purposes, makes perfect sense. :cool:

Although the travel from home to your work is not tax deductible, but the travel between your workplaces is. For example if you have a second job in a local pizza joint than you can claim the travel between your first and second place of work as a tax deduction.
 

captainmorgan

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Tell him he's dreamin!

With your logic, I guess that means my car and motorbike are tax deductable as they get me to work.
Unless you bought the bike to work as a bike courier you're out of luck.
 

Drizz

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Tell him he's dreamin!

With your logic, I guess that means my car and motorbike are tax deductable as they get me to work.
Unless you bought the bike to work as a bike courier you're out of luck.
Did you use your car to get from one workplace to another workplace? Say if you work in the office and have to goto the warehouse, you can claim the trip between the warehouse and office as a tax deduction if your company did not reimburse you for that expense. It works the same if you have 2 jobs and you needed to get from your workplace 1 to your workplace 2. Only time this does not apply is if the trip is between your home and your work.

The problem now is how will you apportion the expense of your bike between work and private trips. You can use logbooks or just accept the statutory formula for a motor vehicle, but how does a bike work in this instance? That specific I dunno.

:EDIT: I am not a qualified TAX accountant so I am going by whats in tax pack 2006. So yeah know this before you send your lawyers after me.
 
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125hardtail

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Did you use your car to get from one workplace to another workplace? Say if you work in the office and have to goto the warehouse, you can claim the trip between the warehouse and office as a tax deduction if your company did not reimburse you for that expense. It works the same if you have 2 jobs and you needed to get from your workplace 1 to your workplace 2. Only time this does not apply is if the trip is between your home and your work.

The problem now is how will you apportion the expense of your bike between work and private trips. You can use logbooks or just accept the statutory formula for a motor vehicle, but how does a bike work in this instance? That specific I dunno.

:EDIT: I am not a qualified TAX accountant so I am going by whats in tax pack 2006. So yeah know this before you send your lawyers after me.

I think the motor vehicle calculation only account for the expenses associated with the running of the vehicle such as petrol. The only questions asked (from memory) relate to the distance travelled and the size of the engine. If this took into account depreciation of the vehicle they would need to know a purchase price or value of the vehicle.

Im pretty sure you could only claim depreciation on the bike (that is, if you are entitled to anything) and it would not have anything to do with the motor vehicle calculations in the tax pack.

To work out the depreciation you would have to have a lifespan for the bike. On commercial buildings it is something like 40 years whereas a computer would have a much shorter life. I wonder where a bike would be considerd to fit in.
 

ja_har

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Correct, You would be only able to claim depreciation of the bike as it would be classed as a capital asset, most likely as 'tools of trade'. Then you need to depreciate it over the lifetime of the bike which may or may not be stipulated by the tax office. I could look it up but I just could'nt be arsed...
 

fleshbone

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i dunno eh.i've heard of some weird things being taxable that we would think was wacky.you'd be suprised.i guess you can ask.
 

Hopper

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If you do manual work or work outdoors you can usually score a bit of cash for a leatherman and a camelbak...

If you did manual (hehhhee manul) work then you woulld become a better rider.... what happens if you became a proessional and riding was your only income? Would you be able to claim the bike thraen?
 

Mattydv

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To claim as a tax deduction it has to be used to generate taxable income, transport to and from your place work is not counted as generating taxable income, merely transport to your place of work.

So no you cannot claim it as a tax deduction.

But.... if it was used to generate income, ie a bike courier or a professional cyclist, then a bike becomes tax deductable.

Otherwise, wouldn't we all be doing it!:p
If you did manual (hehhhee manul) work then you woulld become a better rider.... what happens if you became a proessional and riding was your only income? Would you be able to claim the bike thraen?
Apparently so ^^.
 
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