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that was a general comment at the broader proletariat, sorry for not being clear.You're still telling me to stop being delicate about tonka trucks
that was a general comment at the broader proletariat, sorry for not being clear.You're still telling me to stop being delicate about tonka trucks
My wife bought a 4 bike rack years ago without consulting me. Was a ‘Pacific’ brand POC, but looked like a generic rack that many sell. ‘Locked’ onto the towball, and my god, it was scary. Was best part of 12” of bounce at the back even on smooth roads. I see them on the road, loaded up, and wince.We use an ancient tongue mounted rack for the kids bikes and man that fucker bounces around.
Nah. That was a home made square hitch job. Design heavily influenced by the grip rack though. Easily 15kg of steel plus two 00s era bikes.
Towbar on the Clio was about 18kg as I recall. It evened out the weight distribution a smidge and made it handle betterI wouldn't fit a big heavy towbar to the rear of a small car as it's weight that's felt in ride & handling...
Cool. I’m sure I am overthinking these things. Tends to happen after you’ve watched two bikes fall off the back of your car on the highway.Nah. That was a home made square hitch job. Design heavily influenced by the grip rack though. Easily 15kg of steel plus two 00s era bikes.
I never sat down to do the maths, but I did have two trail bikes, two blokes including me and all our camping gear for a Mont24 in the Clio. Even with its 900cc three cylinder powerhouse and 1000kg empty kerb weight (and front wheel drive) it bounced its way across paddocks and out onto the highway to sit on 110kph back home without scaring anyone or breaking anything. It was fine, I cant imagine a Fiesta being any different.Not a fwd anyway. Part of the reason why I didn't go tow rack on the fwd beater is because the weight and limits start to stack up. People think a bike doesn't weight much but having two bikes (one might be an ebike - flame suit on) haging out 1.2m from the rear axle would be like having 6 20kg bags of concrete in the boot - from a leverage perspective. Works but not ideal.
In my view, the best solution is still front wheel off and shove the bastard in the boot if possible. I've got a baby seat now so was told strictly not to do that anymore :S
I am equally against the trend for everyone to buy an unnecessarily big four-wheel-drive, but I resent the notion that many people put forward that none of us need themSnip.
That is the worst sciencing I have encountered in years.18kg is about the same as a case of beer according to the shipping calculator. If your car handles poorly with a case of beer in the boot then you have something wrong.
Drink more beer then. Seriously, if a car handles noticeably worse with a towbar on then there is something else wrong with the suspension. Like the argument that having 2 bikes on the back is like having 120kg of cement in the boot. I sure as hell hope that no-one carries passengers then.That is the worst sciencing I have encountered in years.
A case of beer is under 10kg. It also isn’t hanging way out behind the back of the car.Drink more beer then. Seriously, if a car handles noticeably worse with a towbar on then there is something else wrong with the suspension.
As for the suggestion that no-one needs a dualcab. What absolute codwaffle. Next time you want to go pick up cement or a diff leaking oil make sure to put it in the back of your X-trail.
A towbar isnt hanging out the back of a car either. I was going off a US site, but forgot that most of their cases are 36 bottles. So from Beer Cartel 12kg https://support.beercartel.com.au/kb/general-questions/what-is-the-weight-of-the-beer-packA case of beer is under 10kg. It also isn’t hanging way out behind the back of the car.
Like I said, i did 4 blokes plus gear up buller in a 2 door 1.4L barina anything is doable and cars can do a lot more than we give them credit for. But then again you could also ride a entry level polygon hardtail with coil fork and cable brakes and clear most trails. The reason why most of us don't is because it's a bit crap.I never sat down to do the maths, but I did have two trail bikes, two blokes including me and all our camping gear for a Mont24 in the Clio.
The mafs is wrong (although in your favor) on the 24x330ml. I get just shy of 8kg for the 330ml and the 375 multiplies out ok.
No...but the racks and bike do.A towbar isnt hanging out the back of a car either.
So sensitive but you don't notice a sail on your roof, higher COG?I mention the handling thing because I notice. I notice a few psi difference in tyre pressures. I notice a passenger. I certainly notice heavy shit in the boot. I don't like it.
Which is why I'd prefer not to have 20+kg slung out the back permanently, let alone bikes'n'shit.
It wasnt crap though, it sat on the road really well loaded up like and handled better than a big tall cart sprung 4wd would. Did need to bump it down an extra gear on the hills and give the turbo a workout, but that was funLike I said, i did 4 blokes plus gear up buller in a 2 door 1.4L barina anything is doable and cars can do a lot more than we give them credit for. But then again you could also ride a entry level polygon hardtail with coil fork and cable brakes and clear most trails. The reason why most of us don't is because it's a bit crap.
The mafs is wrong (although in your favor) on the 24x330ml. I get just shy of 8kg for the 330ml and the 375 multiplies out ok.