No helmet, no worries.Unless @safreek has been working on the bike.
If they could negotiate to get the Russian's out of the Donbas and Crimea that would be a crushing victory. Zelensky needs to start dressing like a Mujahideen.And we all thought that the risk of conflagration was westward....
By this time next year, the Ukrainians will be at the gates of Moscow.
Isn't Belgorod on the Russian side of the border? Is that a POW photo?
Reports are that two Ukrainian helicopters attacked a Russian fuel depot in Belgorod although Ukraine hasn't claimed responsibility for the attack... the photo in the screenshot johnny put up is a meme.Isn't Belgorod on the Russian side of the border? Is that a POW photo?
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Have you seen the footage of the attack? Caught on a number of different cameras. OF course, with Uktaine also using Hinds, it's hard to tell who it actually was. My money is on the Ukrainians. I do find it funny that the Russians are protesting the act, like they're an innocent party that has been horribly wronged.Reports are that two Ukrainian helicopters attacked a Russian fuel depot in Belgorod although Ukraine hasn't claimed responsibility for the attack... the photo in the screenshot johnny put up is a meme.
it never really stopped, we just looked away!Pure evil, unfortunately about to be repeated.
One has to question why there is any footage at all if it was such a surprise attack, I'd imagine that the Ukrainian pilots are very adept at flying below the radar and wouldn't blame them for retaliating against the Russians however it is still plausible that it was a staged Russian attack on their own infrastructure so they can escalate their current operations.Have you seen the footage of the attack? Caught on a number of different cameras. OF course, with Uktaine also using Hinds, it's hard to tell who it actually was. My money is on the Ukrainians. I do find it funny that the Russians are protesting the act, like they're an innocent party that has been horribly wronged.
I can only think if that was the case the Russian pilots would have needed to defect after the attack or face the firing squad on their return.Or a Russian attack from military personnel that don't want to be there, and see it as a way of stymieing their forward thrust?
Play that idea, that it's a Russian false flag out. How could they escalate their operations in Ukraine?One has to question why there is any footage at all if it was such a surprise attack, I'd imagine that the Ukrainian pilots are very adept at flying below the radar and wouldn't blame them for retaliating against the Russians however it is still plausible that it was a staged Russian attack on their own infrastructure so they can escalate their current operations.
Not saying it is but it could galvanize support for the operation at home, the propaganda machine needs fuel.Play that idea, that it's a Russian false flag out. How could they escalate their operations in Ukraine?
Play that idea, that it's a Russian false flag out. How could they escalate their operations in Ukraine?
This was my train of thought, Russia gets to point a finger and say see we told you Ukraine isn't peaceful now we can withdraw from negotiations and use this as justification.Not saying it is but it could galvanize support for the operation at home, the propaganda machine needs fuel.
But to what end? Russia is bleeding blood and treasure hand over fist. If Ukraine becomes a bleeding ulcer for them, what does Russia gain?This was my train of thought, Russia gets to point a finger and say see we told you Ukraine isn't peaceful now we can withdraw from negotiations and use this as justification.
If they were going to do a false flag to galvanise their citizens, they'd attack something far less important to their military than a huge amount of fuel. They'd attack something more important to the population like a symbolic target or the population itself.This was my train of thought, Russia gets to point a finger and say see we told you Ukraine isn't peaceful now we can withdraw from negotiations and use this as justification.
But to what end? Russia is bleeding blood and treasure hand over fist. If Ukraine becomes a bleeding ulcer for them, what does Russia gain?
The best thing that can happen for Putin now is the Russian army to leave Ukraine in one piece without mass desertions and the conscript system breaking down, Ukraine to remain nuetral, and for the west to lift sanctions. There is no good that can come from Russia drawing out the conflict. They have no hope of conquering and holding any major cities and it's unlikely that the economic pain will stop until they reach a stable peace. This may include Ukraine dictating that Russia leave the Donbas and Crimea.
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Fair points, I'm definitely not a military strategist. Is there a reason why Ukraine would deny responsibility for the attack?If they were going to do a false flag to galvanise their citizens, they'd attack something far less important to their military than a huge amount of fuel. They'd attack something more important to the population like a symbolic target or the population itself.
But let's say they did use this to galvanise support from the population, what then? Are they going to try and take over the capital and install their own government? Are they going to start indiscriminately shelling cities and killing everyone? Are they going to start executing civilians in the street? Are they going to threaten the world with nuclear war?
They're already doing all of these things and they've failed to achieve their goals. The Russians are getting their arses handed to them - the LAST thing the Kremlin needs is a supercharged population demanding revenge which Putin can't deliver. There's zero chance that this was false flag, the target alone would suggest that, the strategic environment confirms it, IMO.