Why is there little innovation in road bikes?

I thought I'd read it in a post by some one else, but I can't find it now: road cycling has been around a lot longer than MTB, so you'd expect that it's already made a lot of the bigger, more visible innovations, the like that MTB has been going through.
 
he could have eaten dodgy end of day chicken from the supermarket rotisserie and had a bout of diarrhoea that would have saved him way more than 100g. and saved $385-390 in the process. :D

I gwt that but did he buy it for weight savings or because it was a more comfortable fit?

Crazy if it really was for the weight savings!
 
*cough* 8kg scandium Air9 *cough*

Thread derailment imminent but have you still got that bike?

Wish I had 😢 Wasn't much weight weenie about this bike, it was just fully rigid and light.


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I gwt that but did he buy it for weight savings or because it was a more comfortable fit?

Crazy if it really was for the weight savings!
Because that Never happens with weight weenies (even here) doing an MTB build. ;)

Cranks, pedals, handlebars, stems, Droppers, Saddles, Rear Mech, Cassette, Wheels - All parts that Mountain bikers are known for considering the weight of, when building their bike. Also frame. eg Carbon vs Alloy.
 
Because that Never happens with weight weenies (even here) doing an MTB build. ;)

Cranks, pedals, handlebars, stems, Droppers, Saddles, Rear Mech, Cassette, Wheels - All parts that Mountain bikers are known for considering the weight of, when building their bike. Also frame. eg Carbon vs Alloy.
I'm only concerned with rotating weight these days but the opportunity to save half a kilo is also nice :)
 
Because that Never happens with weight weenies (even here) doing an MTB build. ;)

Cranks, pedals, handlebars, stems, Droppers, Saddles, Rear Mech, Cassette, Wheels - All parts that Mountain bikers are known for considering the weight of, when building their bike. Also frame. eg Carbon vs Alloy.
My bike weigh 25.2kg. Zero point in trying to lighten it. Spend $1000 to make it weigh 23.2kg.
Mates Hardtail weighs 9.999999kg. Feels like it would crack in half if he went over a jump.
 
Mates Hardtail weighs 9.999999kg. Feels like it would crack in half if he went over a jump.

This bike was 9.92kg ready to ride pre dropper added, I dont think the name of SuperFly 9.9SL was anything to do with the weight. Probably around 10.3kg now with the dropper, which made it so much nicer to ride.

Still got it, worth nothing these days with aging geo so its a keeper. Full 11spd XX1, XTR brakes, carbon everything else. Nice bike, just worth fekk all of its original price.

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Can confirm! Was left behind in Melrose with the Yoinker aboard.

About time you came and re-enacted that jump @ozzybmx

That was a Coomie pic, would like to get back there soon.

EDIT: On that race day, even know you were in a different cat young Cardy, it was well behind you on that occasion ;)
 
A mate bought a nice Cervelo roadie this week. Had a look last night and it's a pretty bike. It's an upgrade over his 20 year old dropbar 105 bike.
Yet with the 2 bikes next to each other in his man cave they look identical from afar. Same frame, gears (albeit 12 vs 10 speed) and disc brakes over dual pivots. The newer bike is a fraction lighter as well

On the other side he has his 2 mountain bikes parked next to each other. A vintage dualie from the turn of the century and his newish evil insurgent. The difference is night and day.

Makes me think did road bike design peak 50+ years ago? Other than disc brakes and electric gear changing I haven't really seen any advancement in frame design or other functions.
Bought The Lad his first new mountain bike after more than 12 years on tip shop/bargain website parts combinations this weekend...though on reflection that may not be true but lets not get in the way of a relevant story....

... anyway, 99 Bikes at Castle Hill in Sydney. Zero road bikes, based on UCI definitions. And I looked because I'm not a roadie. Did we fucking win or what? No we did not. Let's just say that The Lad's new Big 9 (and it's huge) was the most MTB of anything there that wasn't overloaded with a battery.

I think we've all lost. But at least they still ride...
 
This bike was 9.92kg ready to ride pre dropper added, I dont think the name of SuperFly 9.9SL was anything to do with the weight. Probably around 10.3kg now with the dropper, which made it so much nicer to ride.

Still got it, worth nothing these days with aging geo so its a keeper. Full 11spd XX1, XTR brakes, carbon everything else. Nice bike, just worth fekk all of its original price.

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100%, it's MAMILS, by and large, who are usually highly paid professionals in Law, Medicine/Dentistry or Biz.

Dudes who can finally buy the kind of bikes they lusted after when they were younger men but didn't have the $$$$$$$$.
I'm no longer a MAMIL these days I'm a SOMIL.

There has been plenty of innovation in the frames as already pointed out in aerodynamics to reduce drag, and these days they do the wind tunnel test with a human on board! Even though you think the human body isn't all that aero, positioning can make a huge difference (he says with real conviction). First off, lycra, next shave legs! But seriously when it comes to TT, body position is biggest factor, then the aerodynamics of the wheels and then the bike frame. Because, triathlon was not governed by the UCI there was a lot more experimentation with frame design, especially back in the 90s with designs by Softride, Cervelo, Kestrel and Mike Burrows.

However, these days the triathlon frames look a lot more standard than they used to because people like Cervelo kept working on their UCI compliant road bikes and found ways to make them just as aerodynamic. You see a lot more Kamm foils these days too which helps with practicality when it comes to manufacturing. On the surface it doesn't look like much has happened but it has though it is subtle.

The UCI regulations are an attempt to keep things fair across the centuries 😂 especially when it comes to the hour records. In 1997 they stipulate you had to ride a bike like the one Eddy Merkx had ridden in 1972 when he set the hour record (for God's sake). The idea was that it should just be a test of the human effort. They changed this in 2014 and allowed more innovation. The latest record seems to have upset them again...
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