I mostly only caught the first 10 minutes or so and a bit at the end. MTB callers were really calm and well-reasoned. Sadly, the program host was very much "So, what can we do to stop MTBers 'bush-bashing' and running down walkers?" Callers were on-point pushing mental wellbeing, getting outdoors, fitness, social activity, good outdoor recreational activity for youth, inclusiveness for women and children (Host: "Oh, because the image is very much that's it's 'boy's club' and women aren't typically included?"). It was frustrating to say the least. Ended with the nimbys too to give them final say.