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fair_enough69

fair_enough69

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hey ...

well the first round has been competed ,, with todd kelly ontop of the champioship ,, but he didnt win the round!!
just wondering what others think of...

-the new point system
- channel 7 !! i personalyl thought they advertise the fact thats its on 7 waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much, and i still think all the 7 commentars are tossers,, thank god crompton stayed on...overall it wasnt to bad but i prefer ch10,,
-lack of speed from lowndes?? and the speed of ingall?? suprise
-also the lack of really competive holdens inside the top 10,, you have the toll and the hrt cars and the rest are all out.. the tasman cars where going decent into murphys shat itself
- the lack of carnage for an clispal 500,, a sign of good things to come?

also i dont like the clispsal last race thingo,, prefered if todd won the round..
 
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I agree I was so sick of hearing "Its On 7 in 07"

When Mathew White used to commentate on the supercars on 10 he was useless and nothing has changed. He has no idea and makes comments that are some times completly wrong.
 
VTSS350 said:
I agree I was so sick of hearing "Its On 7 in 07"

When Mathew White used to commentate on the supercars on 10 he was useless and nothing has changed. He has no idea and makes comments that are some times completly wrong.
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Mathew White: "Everything inside a V8 supercar cockpit is extreme"

WTF!!!

7 certainly need to polish up on the presentation. Information didn't seem to flow as well as ten had e.g places, times, pit stops. That may come with time, the ten years were awesome because they refined the presentation and the commentators really knew what they were talking about and had developed a good working relationship. Don't know if anyone else noticed but their was a lot of silence and crompton would have to start talking to fill the void.

The racing was ok but being a ford fan it was hard to watch those kelly boys clean up.

James Courtney was impressive and I didn't expect Bright to do so well.

The point system might decide the championship a bit earlier but success should be rewarded better than the old system.


RIP channel 10.
 
Yes this years points system is far better. It actually rewards drivers for passing and improving there finishing position. It makes for better racing.

I wouldnt let Mathew White commentate on grass growing.
 
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Ad breaks are too long eg with 10 laps to go and the field condensed they went to a 3 minute ad break. Stupid. How about going for 2 shorter breaks at less interesting parts of the track etc.
Yeah the team needs refinement but that will come.
As for the points system i like it. You no longer just have to show up to get points.
Would have liked to see more of the support races though rather then an eternity of crew chiefs and drivers saying the same crap over and over.
 
I know it's a bit of a grave dig, but does anyone else on here still follow V8s?

Curious to hear a bit more about the new Car of the Future rules, and where people think it's going to go after Nissan... is Chrysler a contender? Mitsubishi?

I seem to think that it's killing the era of the Ford vs. Holden teams, but it's actually going back to the traditional races like Bathurst which used to be open to most manufacturers... still a little torn as to what it's going to do with the fanbase, I'm the generation who grew up only watching F v. H on track and tv!
 
hach_bee said:
does anyone else on here still follow V8s?
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Tried to watch it again about halfway through last year, all of my favourites had changed teams and too much had changed for me to catch up.

I honestly couldn't be bothered trying to catch up with all the new teams and rules so I don't bother watching anymore. I used to ADORE the bash 'n' smash attitude of the V8s, but it seems the series has turned a bit less primitive, which is disappointing.
 
hach_bee said:
I seem to think that it's killing the era of the Ford vs. Holden teams.
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I have seen a lot of comments like yours on the V8SC Facebook page, and as hard as I try, I really cant understand the reasons why you and others would feel that way.

The death of F vs H started a couple of years ago, when Ford hinted that the falcon may only be made for a few more years, and subsequently started reducing it's funding to the ford teams. Holden has also now admitted that the commodore may only remain in production until 2016. The series as it is right now, didn't have a future. With COF, and other manufacturers it does.

There will still be Fords bumping into Holdens on track, even with other manufacturers in the mix.

I was pumped when I found out Nissan was joining. It will add variety to the series.
 
I have mentioned I'm a weirdo right?? Haha I'm a little sad about it Ivan, but like I said, it's all I've ever known V8s to be! Still, I'm curious to see what the future's going to hold for the sport (partially because I'm hoping to get involved)

ALSO great result for the Ford boys today in Tassie! Despite Holden having twice as many cars on the grid ;)
 
hach_bee said:
I know it's a bit of a grave dig, but does anyone else on here still follow V8s?

Curious to hear a bit more about the new Car of the Future rules, and where people think it's going to go after Nissan... is Chrysler a contender? Mitsubishi?

I seem to think that it's killing the era of the Ford vs. Holden teams, but it's actually going back to the traditional races like Bathurst which used to be open to most manufacturers... still a little torn as to what it's going to do with the fanbase, I'm the generation who grew up only watching F v. H on track and tv!
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I don't think it will be anything remotely close to what the touring cars were in the 80's, the cars will look pretty much the same, sound the same and there won't be any massive horsepower advantages like the old skylines used to have, I see it as a way of bringing more dollars to the sport which will do the longevity of the sport good. I think going down the same path as nascar will be a good move, if it means more fans and more money, win win yeah?

Oh yeah channel 7 sucks big donkeys balls as far as motor racing goes, leave it to ch10, used to be so much better....
 
I didn't think it was possible for Nissan to make a heavy rwd car with no grip or downforce to comply with the v8 rules. Surely if they enter a dtm spec gtr they will just rape everyone?
 
Plow King said:
I didn't think it was possible for Nissan to make a heavy rwd car with no grip or downforce to comply with the v8 rules. Surely if they enter a dtm spec gtr they will just rape everyone?
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It's not a GTR but a new sedan model that will be announced soon? (since last I read) don't think it will be an actual skyline... And I kinda like the fact that there's no horsepwr advantage like back in the old days- leaves the skills to the drivers and their teams for tactics. Just like a salary cap in footy, there's gotta be a leveler or no one would watch a race when the same old people win.

COTF rules that they must have a particular type of chassis for the car (correct me if I'm wrong) as well as four doors, V8 engine that complies to strict engineering spec. When skylines ruled the mountain before CAMS came in, they DID do it using four wheel drive AND steer, before you even compare engines.....
 
Will be good to have another manufacturer put some money into the sport.
There is nothing Holden or Ford about it now though other than the badge, door skins and possibly bonnet and boot lids.
All run a US 5L, 4 bolt, 2 valve, push rod motor. All have the same sequential box, same diff, same brakes. All have the same body kit restrictions, run the same rims and tyres etc.
I kind of like all the restrictions as it makes it more about the drivers' skill and the engineers tweaking what they have.
Having a maxima in the mix will mean Nissan put some coin into the series and it may be better.
 
Does anyone follow either Holden or Ford these days anyway? Personally I have always followed individual drivers as at the end of the day they are the variable in the whole equation, these days the car is less and less so, in v8 supercars anyway. That's how it is in Nascar....I mean when was the last time you saw a 950HP RWD V8 Camry hahaha. As said above the cars are very similar already, the best thing about COTF is; transaxle, IRS and getting rid of the spool diff. They should actually be a much better race car.

The only bad thing about the change I think is that it will give teams with massive engineering/design clout behind them (888) quite an advantage for a while. I could be wrong but I think that is how it will play out, their engineering capability in the field is peerless.
 
Kelly racing has mentioned that they have been dyno testing a Nissan V8, so they may use that rather than the category engine.
 
BLKFOZ said:
Will be good to have another manufacturer put some money into the sport.
There is nothing Holden or Ford about it now though other than the badge, door skins and possibly bonnet and boot lids.
All run a US 5L, 4 bolt, 2 valve, push rod motor. All have the same sequential box, same diff, same brakes. All have the same body kit restrictions, run the same rims and tyres etc.
I kind of like all the restrictions as it makes it more about the drivers' skill and the engineers tweaking what they have.
Having a maxima in the mix will mean Nissan put some coin into the series and it may be better.
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It makes it all about the driver. Mostly nothing to do with engineering and that drives quality away from the category. I've worked on a few different chassis's over the years including recent 888 chassis. Stones has one of the nicest packages around - well presented, stiff, light (lots of ballast), balanced - no results since 2005. 888 - ugly low quality, heavy, not very good balance at all. 888s difference belongs in the combination of Whincup and Loundes would be quicker in a shopping trolley than half the field. Ambrose would probably struggle with the current catagoery. Thats not saying he isn't any good - he is a development driver. While he was at SBR the rules were more open and teams could develop the cars around there own driver. now everything is set in stone the cars suit only a few. in the early 2000s teams would change stroke/conrod lengths to suit a particular track. Now the engine builders biggest concern is making sure the compression ratio doesn't exceed 10.0:1!
 
Steve-0 said:
FYI... http://www.nissan.com.au/webpages/about/Press_Releases/Car_of_the_Future_2013.pdf
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Right, so simply put..........................V8 Supercars are trying to copy the formula that makes NASCAR so successful. How original............. What they need to do is allow a bit more rubbing and competitive racing. The series is over policed and in fear of a sponsor's name being rubber off a panel if two cars make contact. They are always on about cost cutting and attracting sponsors and to me that just screams "mobile billboards". I used to follow the series very closely but over the last four to five years it has become such a bloody yawn. The days of three races per weekend in sprint format were ace! The reverse grid races were bloody great and it was all about entertainment and challenging the teams and drivers. Now? Now it just repeats itself over and over again.
Hopefully the car of the future scheme can rejuvenate the series and make it more interesting.
 
Well worth a grave dig- highlights from yesterdays Phillip island crash.

Both roll cages smashed and both guys out the next day. Makes me wonder what the outcome might have been if the hans devices weren't made compulsory....

[video]http://www.v8supercars.com.au//view/videos/sargent-security-phillip-island-360-race-32-highlights[/video]

Will try and find the real speed view from Kelly's car behind, shows the impact so much worse...
 
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