Amen to that brother!RCOH said:I will definitely not vote Liberal. Why? Well among other things the funding levels of the ABC have been reduced significantly since they have been in power & if recent trends are to followed will continue to drop, which leaves me with less job security at worst or less chance of a pay rise at best.
ALP? Maybe...but fuckin Latham, 2 days ago he said 9/10 low-middle income families will be better of under ALP's tax policy, now 3 days later he has amended it to 7/10. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST TELL THE FUCKIN' TRUTH. Locally though, I know my ALP MP quite well & although he is a grumpy fuck & I covet his politician-salary-bought lifestyle I believe he is/will continue to be a good local member.
I voted Greens in this poll because they seem to make their policies based on fixing actual problems regardless of popularity rather than formulating policy just to get re-elected.
A vote for a minor party is not a wasted vote so long as you distribute your preferences. A Greens 1, Labor 2, ... vote will register as a protest against the major parties, but still push Labor over the line on two party preferred :wink:Ryan said:Labor in the lower house because it's the only realistic way to get rid of Johnny being that we're locked into what's effectively a 2 party system where a vote for a minor party is a wasted vote.
:lol:naz said:fuck i forgot to enrol.
but if i had, id be voting invalid
Very nice write up. I believe that the energy problem is the biggest immediate problem facing the world today.S. said:Somewhat on the topic... we were doing some stuff on "sustainable engineering" at uni yesterday, and the Kyoto protocol came up. According to numerous sources (I believe including CSIRO), the world is going to need much more extreme measures than Kyoto in place, within the next 50 years. I believe a large part of this is going to come from civil and social engineering rather than economic factors. Renewable energy etc is still SO expensive that to incorporate it, it has to be introduced as a fully integrated part of life, rather than installing a few wind farms here and there and maybe a solar panel to heat your pool. Houses, buildings and moreso cities are going to have to become much better designed. Efficient public transport is going to become a huge factor IMO, and in a lot of ways we're going to have to go backwards to go forwards. I believe that to fully realise (literally) the kind of efficiency we're going to need, we're going to have to go back to 19th century approaches of not doing anything half-arsed. Putting more buses on the road isn't the answer. Building train lines however, might be. Proper design on large scales (think whole cities) will become necessary to efficiently house, transport and generally accomodate our population. In some ways, communism works better for this kind of stuff because there's way less economic factors (namely privatisation and private development) to interfere with actually getting shit done.Cave Dweller said:Im probably voting Greens so that Australia can ratify Kyoto and hence leave a half decent world to future generations.
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What I meant about 19th century methods was to actually do stuff on a large scale, and do it properly (not just ride horses and have kero lamps and stuff ). Building a bigger/faster car/train/plane/building or developing a suburb isn't doing anything other than creating a short term solution and a long term problem. I believe transport will become a huge problem as cities get too spread out to actually remain cities any longer - perhaps DCBD megatropolii will emerge?GrubNut said:Very nice write up. I believe that the energy problem is the biggest immediate problem facing the world today.
Bigger than Terrorism, AIDS, Nuclear War, and perhapes even Climate Change (although all of these things are interrelated).
Yes we may have to go back to 19th methods as the oil supply winds down but problem is that our population 4 (?) times as big and we have destroyed a lot of out environment since then.
Bwahaha! So true yet so blatantly screwed up. If it wasn't for him in the first place, we probably wouldn't have registered on the terrorists' radars.Byatch said:As an aside: Johnny must be jumping for joy with that bomb in Jakata. (oh, the alliteration!) People will probably vote for him because they believe him to be a better protector.
I totally disagree. What was the provocation for the September 11 attacks? They're screaming black and blue "anti-infidel" crap, we would have come under the pump sooner or later anyway. Wipe the bastards out.danv said:If it wasn't for him in the first place, we probably wouldn't have registered on the terrorists' radars.
Whoa, they attacked Australia on september 11?S. said:I totally disagree. What was the provocation for the September 11 attacks? They're screaming black and blue "anti-infidel" crap, we would have come under the pump sooner or later anyway. Wipe the bastards out.danv said:If it wasn't for him in the first place, we probably wouldn't have registered on the terrorists' radars.
No, what I'm saying is the whole "if we hadn't done ____" attitude is a load of shit. The Americans hadn't done anything specifically to provoke terrorists killing thousands of innocent civilians, yet they got attacked. We hadn't either, but simply sitting back and saying "we'll be right" is a really, really dumb thing to do when you've got lunatics like that who are really willing (and wanting) to do that kind of damage. They're the ones attacking US remember...wombat said:Whoa, they attacked Australia on september 11?S. said:I totally disagree. What was the provocation for the September 11 attacks? They're screaming black and blue "anti-infidel" crap, we would have come under the pump sooner or later anyway. Wipe the bastards out.danv said:If it wasn't for him in the first place, we probably wouldn't have registered on the terrorists' radars.
Oh mate come on; I know you're smrater than that, and you should understand the reason behind the groups which are targeting the US. It may not be justified, but it wasn't just a matter of "hmm, who should we attack *spin the globe and stick your finger on a country*....ok, them!".S. said:The Americans hadn't done anything specifically to provoke terrorists killing thousands of innocent civilians
S. said:They're the ones attacking US remember...
Really?What was the provocation for the September 11 attacks? They're screaming black and blue "anti-infidel" crap, we would have come under the pump sooner or later anyway.
This really highlights the problem with the way the world is viewed by Americans and those influenced highly by American television and news media.I totally disagree. What was the provocation for the September 11 attacks?