This doesn't even make sense now either because the post where I was blamed for the dwindling confidence in democracy and optimism has been edited out.
But I have no doubt it's my dark shadow on existence that leads people toward dishonesty!! lol!
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But I have no doubt it's my dark shadow on existence that leads people toward dishonesty!! lol!
redbruce
Eats Squid
Accept it all. I don't really have an issue with mods (given acceptance of a particular forums culture).
I have had a different perspective on editing posts up until now and accept the perspective of "record" and flow on responses (from that perspective) as opposed to finite accurate personal representation, is important.
However, the lack of transparency in appointment and unacountability of a mod (relative to the rules we sign up for) still seems no better.
Forum democracy (maybe more culture) in action.
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I think it may assist you if you assimilate point two above in to point one a little more.
It's only an internet forum, nothing overly important happens here (although we do take the for sale section seriously) and I'm not sure users of the forum really need to have a look in or vote on how mods are appointed and conduct themselves. I mean your gripe isn't even about anything that's been done to you. You're just concerned that there isn't complete consistency in the way the rules are applied. My response to that is internet forumry isn't a serious enough matter to require the effort your suggesting and it certainly couldn't be provided by a couple of volunteers like us. To get that we'd have to be paid for the time it would require and that means you would have to pay for your usage of the forum. That obviously won't happen so we have to take what we can get and that is imperfection and inconsistency. Given that it's only an internet forum, I don't see that's a hard thing to accept and deal with.
In regards to the rules you sign up to, it's the same as the law, politics, nature, whatever. Note the formalised rules but better to be fully across the unspoken convention that everyone else lives by because they're the realities that you'll actually be dealing with.
redbruce
Eats Squid
Your are right, its nothing about "what has been done to me", not even interested. However it is about principle and leadership.
Let's unpack this.
I don't have a beef with the challenges associated with community volunteer roles, indeed, I'm sympathetic (also a very active and passionate Scout Leader, and involved with community sports programs, both with a focus on development of our youth), however we have (apparently) established "rules". They either are, or they aren't. So, you are stating (as a Mod) that the rules, are in fact, guidelines. If so then change the title because "rules" have a legal definition, and then we know where we stand. If not, act on them!
Its "only an internet (but none the less, public) forum. I'm not sure users of the forum really need to have a look in or vote on how mods are appointed and conduct themselves", really, even a listed company has governance procedures (along with Govt). So you should not be held accountable in any way? The corporate world is under intensive review and critique at present because its not delivering, despite corporate spin, maybe Rotorburn following the same line?
Not a serious enough matter to require "effort". Then why did you accept the role.
So, what are your principles, your standards, your moral and ethical compass points?
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We're delving back in to the realm of the ridiculous again.
however we have established "rules", that it would appear, are are in fact, guidelines. Change the title because "rules" have a legal definition, and then we know where we stand.
I refer you to my previous post about taking a more relaxed view of internet forumry. Just take a step back and look how serious you're being about something so insignificant!
Its "only an internet (but none the less, public) forum. I'm not sure users of the forum really need to have a look in or vote on how mods are appointed and conduct themselves", really, even a listed company has governance procedures (along with Govt). So you should not be held accountable in any way? The corporate world is under intensive review and critique at present because its not delivering, despite corporate spin, maybe iRotorburn following the same line?
You've got to be kidding me... Listed companies are legal entities where significant amounts of wealth and people's livelihoods are involved. Govts manage millions of people commit war and monopolise power and can legally kill. Yeah, they have rules and measures of accountability.
This is a free internet forum where participation is free and voluntary and all workers are volunteers. If you think that compares to listed companies and govts then this conversation is over because you are detached from even basic realities.
Not a serious enough matter to require "effort". Then why did you accept the role.
Yeah, ok, now you're even misquoting me altogether to try and support your position. I very clearly said "internet forumry isn't a serious enough matter to require the effort your suggesting", not that it didn't require any effort at all.
OK, this is getting back to complete stupidity again and you're leading that charge on your own, Jack.
Thanks for the chat,
Cheers.
however we have established "rules", that it would appear, are are in fact, guidelines. Change the title because "rules" have a legal definition, and then we know where we stand.
I refer you to my previous post about taking a more relaxed view of internet forumry. Just take a step back and look how serious you're being about something so insignificant!
Its "only an internet (but none the less, public) forum. I'm not sure users of the forum really need to have a look in or vote on how mods are appointed and conduct themselves", really, even a listed company has governance procedures (along with Govt). So you should not be held accountable in any way? The corporate world is under intensive review and critique at present because its not delivering, despite corporate spin, maybe iRotorburn following the same line?
You've got to be kidding me... Listed companies are legal entities where significant amounts of wealth and people's livelihoods are involved. Govts manage millions of people commit war and monopolise power and can legally kill. Yeah, they have rules and measures of accountability.
This is a free internet forum where participation is free and voluntary and all workers are volunteers. If you think that compares to listed companies and govts then this conversation is over because you are detached from even basic realities.
Not a serious enough matter to require "effort". Then why did you accept the role.
Yeah, ok, now you're even misquoting me altogether to try and support your position. I very clearly said "internet forumry isn't a serious enough matter to require the effort your suggesting", not that it didn't require any effort at all.
OK, this is getting back to complete stupidity again and you're leading that charge on your own, Jack.
Thanks for the chat,
Cheers.
redbruce
Eats Squid
It seems I'm clearly the odd one out. Not sure what I did or realistically should have expected from this.
Forgive me for expecting a tactical, let alone strategic discussion from someone with your educational, professional, let alone life experience background. None the less your view/perspective is your right.
I think the so called mis quote you refer to is: "My response to that is internet forumry isn't a serious enough matter to require the effort your suggesting and it certainly couldn't be provided by a couple of volunteers like us."
In absolute terms, maybe. From a personal value/principle perspective, well, no (you don't seriously believe and live that do you?).
"Stupidity", I note the sentiment and offer my apology for wasting your (and followers - albeit their choice) time. Then again, we all have the choice to engage, or not.
EDIT: I was going to put this in as a post but decided against on the basis of potentially stirring it all up again. So, yeah even I accept this is inappropriate and a nonsense. Please Disregard. My dogged pursuit of the matter has been misguided and lacking judgement. To Johnny, my sincere apology. I will now take myself off to forum purgatory for a while. - redbruce
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Hipstar
Likes Dirt
Correct, you're doing a brilliant job in proving that point.
Hipstar
Likes Dirt
Ah, and that proves it.
A simple "I know you are, but what am I" response dolled up to try and look like an intelligent retort.
Do you type your responses up in word and then hit the thesaurus button a dozen times?
PINT of Stella. mate!
Many, many Scotches
For those who want to know what happens behind the scenes, here's a pic from our last mod meeting.
I hope that's transparent enough for everyone
I hope that's transparent enough for everyone
moorey
call me Mia
I'm 8th on the left.
pink poodle
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When did Moorey get fat? And who let him stand front right of the pic? Poor form.
As for the conversation going on, I would like to add:
- poo poo = caca
But I'm not sure how to spell it.
As for the conversation going on, I would like to add:
- poo poo = caca
But I'm not sure how to spell it.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
Damn refreshing...
