Recon silver tk fork- argyle moco conversion

Flow-Rider

Burner
Im bored so I've decided to post up my Recon franken fork conversion and also query other peoples conversions. So as it happens being a tight ass that I am and not armed with enough information I stupidly bought( one for the stupid peoples thread ) a 120 travel, Recon, air solo, (TK) = Turn Key travel lock out only fork. All the same it's quite a step up from my other bike that has the dreaded RST aerials 30s that have served me trouble free for 2 years but they felt like you're on the end of a jackhammer for days after a decent ride.

After 8 months of riding with the Recon TKs I found out that the Recons I had just purchased can't be set up to jump hard and have any sort of comfortable ride at the same time. It was either soft and plush or stiff and hard by pumping the crap out of them with high air pressure so that I didn't bottom out the forks on large jumps. Running them soft was ideal for the groups rides I went on but I always had to reach down and lock the fork out for the hill climbs. This was when it all clicked to me the light bulb came on as I climbed with a pack of 40 or so MTB nuts I noticed other people with better forks than me. They didn't need to lock out their forks and just carried on the killer climb with some deciding on the steep sections to stop right in front of me just to shit me off even more so. After I had put myself in a good rhythm for the climb as you do and trying to start again on Mount Cozyosko well not really that high. It wasn't the easiest thing to do in clipless shoes.

I went home after this last ride and had a good look at the adjustments on the fork and decided for the last time that there isn't any adjustment for compression stroke of the fork. It was now that I finally realised I needed this option in order for a better ride. Joining such a good site like Rotor Burn was to pay dividends by quickly doing a search on "Dampner" and a multitude of threads showed up that I had to sift through looking for a quick fix as not wanting to buy another set of forks again. I finally got onto the info for an Argyle moco = ( Motion control valve ) to replace the TK unit I have. Done a quick search on price $57 and decided to not be too tight assed and change the oil while I'm in there may as well buy 1l of the main oil and 120ml of the other needed. It came to a grand total of $111.12 landed in Aus from Niagra cycles in the USA Now! don't get excited I didn't say Viagra I said Niagra.

After receiving the goods in two weeks of anticipation, I quickly installed my brand new Argyle moco valve. A few problems arose in that it was longer than the original valve and a quick search revealed that the oil level needed to be different and all was good again. After it was all fitted and complete from reading many threads I knew that I needed to set what is called the flood gate valve with a 2.5 mm allen key. So far with a quick test ride around the yard it has revealed that the Recons are a lot better than they were originally but still not as good as I had wished.

So if anyone has read all this crap above is or was there anything I could of done to improve the shocks even more like for eg. different oil weights or changing, modifying other valving in the shocks. There are so many different motion control valves but not all will suit my particular forks.
Would like to hear if anyone has done so.


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L3ONNOEL

Likes Dirt
I've done this
It sucks-the stanchions on argyles are longer than recons

Edit: Actually read it, never mind
The air spring sucks in them, it's designed for xc. I'm not sure how you'd change this or if it'd be worth it
 
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Flow-Rider

Burner
I've done this
It sucks-the stanchions on argyles are longer than recons

Edit: Actually read it, never mind
The air spring sucks in them, it's designed for xc. I'm not sure how you'd change this or if it'd be worth it
yes agree the money factor is a downer and I don't think I'll go down the line of converting to spring maybe something like pikes are more suited to me. Didn't realise there is so many different motion control valves until I done this conversion nobody I know has talked about them.
 

SummitFever

Eats Squid
If you want the forks to be plush and handle bigger hits then you can try reducing the volume of your positive air chamber. Do this by adding suspension grease into the top air cap. The smaller volume positive chamber will have the fork ramp up more and it gets deeper into travel. Start with a spoonful of grease and see how it goes.
 

Flow-Rider

Burner
If you want the forks to be plush and handle bigger hits then you can try reducing the volume of your positive air chamber. Do this by adding suspension grease into the top air cap. The smaller volume positive chamber will have the fork ramp up more and it gets deeper into travel. Start with a spoonful of grease and see how it goes.
Thanks for the info SummitFever Its funny you say this and I see how it would work, with the argyle moco I can run a lot less air pressure now. I bought the forks new, lucky if I've done not much over a 2000kms, when I disassemble the air chamber there wasn't a drop of oil in it and the manual said it should have 6ml of 15wt when I reassembled I done this. I,m a bit peed off about the motion control valve I have. The setting I like is in the middle dial range but the flood gate seems to work more predominantly in the higher settings when the fork compression stroke becomes a lot harder other people have found this also with the argyle. I want to get the bike out on the trails and have more of a play, if it doesn't still feel right I,ll bring it back to the shed and try some grease in it (good possibility from the yard test).
 
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