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MasterOfReality

After forever
I had a VN Clubbie, last batch and had a VP interior. A mate had the VP GTS and preferred the Clubbie wheels. They didn't fit. Personally I would have swapped in a trice even though the VN wheels were nice the GTS wheels were the best HSV ever offered. In my opinion of course. Sadly don't scale up to 19s or 20s.
Agree, the VP GTS were the best looking. Impossible to find a set these days.

A bit more research on the Simmons FR19 suggest that to keep the rolling diameter the same, I need a 30 profile tyre. Problem is the 30 profile tyres are not load rated. Can step up to 35 profile but that will throw speedo out and increase ride height. Haven't worked out if its beyond the max allowance increase in rolling diameter yet. But that might be all a moot point if these wheels are not roadworthy anyway. This isn't a daily driver (under 1,000km a year if I'm lucky) so I'm thinking about taking my chances............

My kickdown cable snapped the other week - put it into drive and it dropped in with a massive clunk (makes the IRS squat even more noticeable) and the 1st/2nd change is rough as hell too, chirps the rears. Won't change up past 2nd though. Investigated, saw where the cable goes into the box behind the servo and went yeah nah. If I had my hoist I would have attempted it. That'll teach me for procrastinating on the hoist.

Have contacted mechanic, will book it in for a full going over plus a shift kit and set of 3.9 or 4.1 diff gears to pep the old girl up.
 

beeb

Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
This isn't a daily driver (under 1,000km a year if I'm lucky) so I'm thinking about taking my chances............
I always err on the side of caution with stuff like this, but just for the sake of the argument:

If you had a prang, and insurance investigated and voided the claim because wheels were 1" oversize - where would you be at? I imagine the car's worth a pretty penny these days, 18's still look great on early 90's models (arguably more proportional), and might just save/gain you a bunch of cash if the worst occured.
 
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MasterOfReality

After forever
Haha. There might be a way out but I'm not sure.

Going by the wheel placard, the tyre size is 205/65/15. Some research suggests a VP Calais wheel is 28p. My current wheels and tyres are a 16x8 30p and 225/50/16. They came from factory too. I think Holden/HSV had no idea what they were doing regarding wheel fitment around the VP IRS period.

So compared to the 205/65/15 originals, a 245/35/19 tyre will fit and satisfy the QLD rules regarding rolling diameter and width.

To get the wheel and tyre to fit, I need to have something like a 35p offset to pull the wheels in to avoid fouling the outer guards. This might reduce the track width a little which isn't allowable.
 

Dales Cannon

The Olden Dazed
Staff member
Yes to above... lots were fitting hsv rears to ss etc commodes making them technically illegal due to track reduction and lower load rating if used on utes. If 205/65 is the correct dia then your existing wheels are (nominally) outside the -15mm allowed anyway. Pretty sure I was running 225/60 16 on the clubbie. Look at 235/40 18 instead. Dia is pretty much spot on and load rating will be no issue. Probably fit at P28.
 

MasterOfReality

After forever
Yep I'm pretty sure that the wheels on it now have reduced the track width, and they were hsv optioned wheels from factory. Also the tyres have a slightly smaller diameter as well compared to the tyre placard, which prob accounts for my speedo reading a little slow.

I'm looking into the 18's, but then again, if the track width was altered at factory, the chances of someone checking it in the event of an accident of claim is slim. Main things they would look at is the tyre size and load rating.
 

Dales Cannon

The Olden Dazed
Staff member
I am not sure hsv enhanced ever went near the hsv factory, more a dealer fit thing but I can ask??

HSV made a few nice 18s but not sure of offset.

Edit: offsets way wrong. Seems very few wheels in 5x120 and P28. Oz Leggera in 18x8.5 P29. Would run up to 255 tyre and a sexy beast of a wheel (I have these in a different as street wheels so bias intended).
 
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MasterOfReality

After forever
Mine has the sv suspension kit, sv body kit, family wheels (sv5000) and 180kw engine pack. Prob not a dealer upgrade. There’s about a month difference between the Holden and hsv build plates.
 
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komdotkom

Likes Dirt
Absolutely. Plenty of them available. It was more a romantic keep the holden block idea.
If you want a Holden V8 built, speak to Tony Knight in Adelaide. He's forgotten more about Holden V8s than all of the internet experts combined and is very reasonably priced for a real engine builder. He's done a few race engines for me (not Holden V8s) and I've seen quite a few of his 308/355 combinations make good numbers and trap the corresponding mph (unlike internet HP).
He does mild stuff too if you just want a street motor and probably has one there, last time I checked it was a six month wait though
 

Cardy George

Piercing rural members since 1981
If you want a Holden V8 built, speak to Tony Knight in Adelaide. He's forgotten more about Holden V8s than all of the internet experts combined and is very reasonably priced for a real engine builder. He's done a few race engines for me (not Holden V8s) and I've seen quite a few of his 308/355 combinations make good numbers and trap the corresponding mph (unlike internet HP).
He does mild stuff too if you just want a street motor and probably has one there, last time I checked it was a six month wait though
Cheers. Mrs George and I were talking about life other day and with all things I'm doing to keep money coming in the door pretty much any outside interest of mine has a ten year wait, including riding my bike at the moment. But I do appreciate the tip.
 

Haakon

Call me Ken, whoreken
So I’ve just had Valeo confirm their listing for their dual mass flywheels for the Megane has an error, and I actually have a diesel flywheel. It’s about 4kg heavier than the petrol which would explain the idle problem - ECU can’t calculate the load properly.

It might even have a slightly different target wheel for the CAS…

Looks like I’ll be supplied a new correct flywheel, hopefully I can hit them up for the cost of having someone else fit it.
 

Flow-Rider

Burner
So I’ve just had Valeo confirm their listing for their dual mass flywheels for the Megane has an error, and I actually have a diesel flywheel. It’s about 4kg heavier than the petrol which would explain the idle problem - ECU can’t calculate the load properly.

It might even have a slightly different target wheel for the CAS…

Looks like I’ll be supplied a new correct flywheel, hopefully I can hit them up for the cost of having someone else fit it.
You didn't compare it with the old one?
 

Haakon

Call me Ken, whoreken
You didn't compare it with the old one?
Different brand - the Valeo flywheels look very different to the factory fitted LUK unit.

And no I didn’t think to compare weights! They’re both bloody heavy :)

Valeo isn’t exactly a dodgy or small company! Didn’t think to doubt their listings until I jsut happened to notice they only list the petrol sedan model for this one and the identical engine/trans fitted to the hatch and estate versions had a different flywheel part number - so I queried it with Valeo and they went away and discovered their listing was wrong.

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Flow-Rider

Burner
Different brand - the Valeo flywheels look very different to the factory fitted LUK unit.

And no I didn’t think to compare weights! They’re both bloody heavy :)

Valeo isn’t exactly a dodgy or small company! Didn’t think to doubt their listings until I jsut happened to notice they only list the petrol sedan model for this one and the identical engine/trans fitted to the hatch and estate versions had a different flywheel part number - so I queried it with Valeo and they went away and discovered their listing was wrong.

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The reluctor wheels will be different and all, give the wrong wave pattern on the oscilloscope, it should stand out like dogs nuts.
 
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