hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Emissions are emissions.
Which is why we can’t afford to build too many EVs.
Which is why we can’t afford to build too many EVs.
Plastic bags, climate change, renewable energy,
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beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
The point is that building many of either is still an issue. Pretty clear by now that hifi isn't advocating for more super-duty monster "truck" sales.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
Sure, but you’re not going to get people to stop buying cars full stop. VW, Tesla and others are aware of the optics at least of manufacturing emissions though and all have statements about how they address the issue.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
you sound like Scotty
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Yes.
I’m advocating for private car ownership to start declining, with a move to shared vehicle use.
And oooh - “a statement”.
Climate change doesn’t respond to promises, it responds to emissions.
I’m advocating for private car ownership to start declining, with a move to shared vehicle use.
And oooh - “a statement”.
Climate change doesn’t respond to promises, it responds to emissions.
Haakon
has an accommodating arse
I had assumed you would go and actually look at the statements and come to a more nuanced assessment of their merits...
But are some emissions more morally betterer than others?
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
No emissions are moral any more.
Nuanced promises less so.
Nuanced promises less so.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
Can we change the statement slightly? I think
Climate change doesn’t respond to promises, it responds to actions.
Is more accurate. But removing the word emissions does give people the opportunity to ignore emissions as the problem that requires action.
Greed and corruption will overcome all common sense though. The masses will follow out of laziness and entitlement.
...and yes, fuck those behemoth cars. But not just them.
I can't wait until reverend musk announces he has the ability to build massive biodomes for our new and improved lives.
Climate change doesn’t respond to promises, it responds to actions.
Is more accurate. But removing the word emissions does give people the opportunity to ignore emissions as the problem that requires action.
Greed and corruption will overcome all common sense though. The masses will follow out of laziness and entitlement.
...and yes, fuck those behemoth cars. But not just them.
I can't wait until reverend musk announces he has the ability to build massive biodomes for our new and improved lives.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
Fuck you, airlines:
Climate campaigners condemn 'joy flights' for travellers who miss flying
Rise in scenic round-trips by air in Australia and Asia is ‘insanity,’ say environmentalistswww.theguardian.com
You know when you read it from Qantas' perspective, it really is a revolutionary business move! Such a great way to put the gloominess of this pandemic behind you for a few hours and remember how great it is to fly!
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
The burn! I want to know if it is full service? I flew Qantas recently and there was nothing in flight. No entertainment, no food, no drinks, nothing...$800 for a $700 flight is a lot of money. If you just wanted to fly you could probably do a domestic return and save. At $800 I'd be wanting hors d'oeuvres and cocktails on demand! And maybe a wristy too, one I didn't have to give myself.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
A little more on the joy flights.
Freediver
I can go full Karen
Out of curiosity are you carbon negative Hifi ?
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Nope. I'm carbon aware & carbon miserly & carbon guilty.
It's really bloody hard without legislation.
It's really bloody hard without legislation.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
x2. Our bank is giving a 3 month mortgage break for "greening" works to people's homes, we're looking at double glazing, and/or a battery to complement our solar.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
There must be an online calculator somewhere? Would be good for people to be able to assess their output and identify ways to reduce.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Me going from fuck all to zero won't fix anything.
We need proper legislation to produce the 7% emissions per annum decline mandated by the science.
We need proper legislation to produce the 7% emissions per annum decline mandated by the science.
pink poodle
気が狂っている男
Lucky we have a switched on prime minister who is really proactive when dealing with climate change.
Freediver
I can go full Karen
It's called leading by example. If you really cared you'd be negative rather than just calling for other people to do something.
hifiandmtb
Sphincter beanie
Bullshit.
"Other people?" Legislation is the only answer - this problem cannot be resolved by individual actions.
I don't believe you realise the magnitude of the problem.
"Other people?" Legislation is the only answer - this problem cannot be resolved by individual actions.
I don't believe you realise the magnitude of the problem.