Newly Released Suspension & Components General

shiny

Go-go-gadget-wrist-thingy
AXS shifting is amazing, definitely worth a go. Objectively not worth the mark up yet* but when it gets cheaper.....

*unless you're doing hundreds of kms weekly on your bike, then it might be
Yeah. The GX AXS is not bad “value” but does have a weight penalty. Still if I smacked a $500 mech and it blew it up would need some counselling!!
 

caad9

Likes Bikes and Dirt
The Lappiere Ei system mentioned earlier was very good, when it was working.
That was available quite a few years ago now.

This sort of technology will make bigger bikes a lot more user friendly although I don’t know that it will have too much uptake just yet
 

link1896

Mr Greenfield
Yep, before my Lapierre broke, the e:i system was great.

Wiring was crap. Terrible. Zero strain relief, two cells in series for the battery pack with zero charging management.
 

Asininedrivel

caviar connoisseur
Yeah. The GX AXS is not bad “value” but does have a weight penalty. Still if I smacked a $500 mech and it blew it up would need some counselling!!
The anxiety is strong :) But I've whacked one hard enough to bend the hanger and it was totally fine. The way it desperately tried to realign itself afterwards (but couldn't overcome the hanger) was pretty cool too.
Yep, before my Lapierre broke, the e:i system was great.

Wiring was crap. Terrible. Zero strain relief, two cells in series for the battery pack with zero charging management.
Did you have the first gen (2014) or second gen (2015)? Second gen looked much better integrated than the first from what I saw.
 

k3n!f

leaking out the other end
Maybe I'm old and grumpy, but I have no interest in electrical components on my mountain bike. I go riding to get away from the digital world and the thought of running out of batteries for my derailleur/seatpost/suspension/brakes(!?!?!) in the middle of nowhere doesn't appeal at all.

I really hope the next XTR is mechanical, or I'm going to buy a rigid single speed, grow the required bushman beard and ride off into sunset mumbling something about simpler times.
 

beeb

Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
Maybe I'm old and grumpy, but I have no interest in electrical components on my mountain bike. I go riding to get away from the digital world and the thought of running out of batteries for my derailleur/seatpost/suspension/brakes(!?!?!) in the middle of nowhere doesn't appeal at all.

I really hope the next XTR is mechanical, or I'm going to buy a rigid single speed, grow the required bushman beard and ride off into sunset mumbling something about simpler times.
I think this RockShox setup is the most useful/best thought out version of electronically controlled components (so far), but still - strong agree.
 

leitch

Feelin' a bit rrranty
I really hope the next XTR is mechanical, or I'm going to buy a rigid single speed, grow the required bushman beard and ride off into sunset mumbling something about simpler times.
Already starting to stock up on mechanical Ultegra spares at the moment before the dreaded 9200/8100 takes over...
 

dancaseyimages

Mountain bike pornographer
Maybe I'm old and grumpy, but I have no interest in electrical components on my mountain bike. I go riding to get away from the digital world and the thought of running out of batteries for my derailleur/seatpost/suspension/brakes(!?!?!) in the middle of nowhere doesn't appeal at all.

I really hope the next XTR is mechanical, or I'm going to buy a rigid single speed, grow the required bushman beard and ride off into sunset mumbling something about simpler times.
Solar panel Jersey is the next thing ;), and a mini wind turbine on your helmet for when your chasing those Strava KOM's
 

beeb

Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
Solar panel Jersey is the next thing ;), and a mini wind turbine on your helmet for when your chasing those Strava KOM's
Can I turn it inwards and use it as a cooling fan? I would seriously consider that for summer riding!
 

link1896

Mr Greenfield
The anxiety is strong :) But I've whacked one hard enough to bend the hanger and it was totally fine. The way it desperately tried to realign itself afterwards (but couldn't overcome the hanger) was pretty cool too.

Did you have the first gen (2014) or second gen (2015)? Second gen looked much better integrated than the first from what I saw.
2014 with gen2 wiring. Still utter shit. Designed like it was going to stay in a bike rack and never go out on a trail.
 

Cardy George

Piercing rural members since 1981
*unless you're doing hundreds of kms weekly on your bike, then it might be
And even then, still not a deal breaker to go without. But the value for money is there for Di2. Over 30,000 km, pivots are still rock solid, shifting is as fast as ever. I've only hit it hard enough to knock it out of alignment once, but a reset and all was good again.

I can see the benefit of the electronikary, but with only one springy end, I don't need it.
 

bear the bear

Is a real bear
And even then, still not a deal breaker to go without. But the value for money is there for Di2. Over 30,000 km, pivots are still rock solid, shifting is as fast as ever. I've only hit it hard enough to knock it out of alignment once, but a reset and all was good again.

I can see the benefit of the electronikary, but with only one springy end, I don't need it.
The magic of Di2 is in the front shifting and use of synchro-shift.
Have had it on the road/ gravel bike since 2014 and it's brilliant.
Tried it on the MTB for about 12 months and it's not as good as the latest mechanical 12spd.
 

Cardy George

Piercing rural members since 1981
The magic of Di2 is in the front shifting and use of synchro-shift.
Have had it on the road/ gravel bike since 2014 and it's brilliant.
Tried it on the MTB for about 12 months and it's not as good as the latest mechanical 12spd.
Definitely agree with the syncro-shift. I've mentioned it before, but I broke my right shifter, so mounted my left shifter backwards on the right-hand side, reprogrammed it to operate the rear, and left it in syncro, for 18 months. I've finally made it around to ordering a new right side because the electronics sit where I want the TOGS to sit.

Are you comparing the rear shifting to 12sp, or do you have a mythical 12sp front derailleur?
 

bear the bear

Is a real bear
Definitely agree with the syncro-shift. I've mentioned it before, but I broke my right shifter, so mounted my left shifter backwards on the right-hand side, reprogrammed it to operate the rear, and left it in syncro, for 18 months. I've finally made it around to ordering a new right side because the electronics sit where I want the TOGS to sit.

Are you comparing the rear shifting to 12sp, or do you have a mythical 12sp front derailleur?
No rear only.
With 1x.
12spd Shimano is better than Di2 due to the ability to cleanly shift under load without sounding like a bag of spanners.
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
I had XTR Di2 on my Evil Following and I really didn't like it on that bike.
Should have swapped it onto my XC race bike but the PRO Koryak bars and stem were for Di2 and it was all too hard.

Would love it on my indyfab gravel bike.

Less chance of cleaning off a $700 derailleur.

The Di2 battery lasts for several months.
 
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