Looking for a semi-professional film maker based in SEQ

[Intense1]

Hi guys,

Looking for a semi-professional film maker to work on a project starting in April.

Requirements; Be mature and professional in your work; Have your own camera and equipment, able to produce high quality 1080p video; Have access to all required editing equipment; Be immensely skilled in both filming and editing - able to produce a video of the highest possible standard; Be able to commute to Brisbane; Have your own reliable transport; Comfortable starting at 5am.

You will be required to do both all the filming and all the editing. You will need to be highly efficient at editing, and be 100% focused when filming.

You will work only on weekends. Pay will be $25 per hour paid cash at the end of each filming or editing session. So if we do a 12 hour filming session, you will get $300 cash at the end of that session. You'll be required to sign a contract agreeing to see the project through to the finish. Projected length of the project will be 3 months +.

If you think you may be suited for this. Please send through some samples of your work. Either shoot me a private message, post in this thread or send me an email at james.fremantle.111@gmail.com

Regards

 

[Ky1e]

You're asking too much and $ us way off for your demands. Imo anyway..

 

[johnny]

Yeah, gotta say, you may want to rethink your approach or at least your wanted ad.

Sounds like you're expecting Speilberg for an ABC budget.

 

[creaky]

If it's porn then getting paid $300 for a 12 hour session would be pretty sweet ... And you'd be 100% focused in the editing as requested.

Dude, either you're offering someone a super opportunity and not disclosing how or your ad just presents you as maybe not the greatest person in the world to work for (for peanuts). Put an ad up at your local film school / uni at that budget and you could find a decent (but not experienced) shooter.

 

[Intense1]

If it's porn then getting paid $300 for a 12 hour session would be pretty sweet ... And you'd be 100% focused in the editing as requested.

Dude, either you're offering someone a super opportunity and not disclosing how or your ad just presents you as maybe not the greatest person in the world to work for (for peanuts). Put an ad up at your local film school / uni at that budget and you could find a decent (but not experienced) shooter.

Thanks for the input guys. I feel this is actually a super opportunity for a young and talented film maker with a passion for mountain biking. We're looking to produce a high quality film but obviously there is a budget. Quite a few young film makers out there who make films of local races etc actually do a great job and produce quality stuff, however they're doing this in their own time, for free and as a hobby. We're looking for one of these young film makers with the passion and talent, who generally do their work in their own time, to actually get paid to have fun and produce some high quality footage.

 

[camoshop]

This guys Melbourne based, he's good.
Here's a link maybe give him an email
http://www.edreissfilm.com

 

[wesdadude]

Your ad does seem a little weird. Generally the video provider will determine a cost based on your scope and budget. I can understand an hourly rate for shooting days as day rates are quite common in the industry but how do you factor in compensation for time spend editing?

As others have said; you're offering peanuts, which'll get you monkeys. Even as someone starting out, doing this as a hobby, I bill a lot more. If you're going to sell a low rate because they're doing it for the love then you need to provide some details on the love factor.

I'd recommend approaching some people with your budget and what you want to achieve and they can work from there.

 

[Intense1]

Your ad does seem a little weird. Generally the video provider will determine a cost based on your scope and budget. I can understand an hourly rate for shooting days as day rates are quite common in the industry but how do you factor in compensation for time spend editing?

As others have said; you're offering peanuts, which'll get you monkeys. Even as someone starting out, doing this as a hobby, I bill a lot more. If you're going to sell a low rate because they're doing it for the love then you need to provide some details on the love factor.

I'd recommend approaching some people with your budget and what you want to achieve and they can work from there.

Thanks for your input. All video editing will be paid for at the same hourly rate. I'll personally be overseeing the editing and working closely with the film maker to produce what I'm looking for.

So, if we spend 25 hours filming for an episode we'll be doing more than 25+ hours of paid editing working together.

I think your comment about getting monkeys is way off - we've received a number of offers today. Mainly from University students studying film but one in particular from a small production company who specialize in adrenaline sports films. We've seen some of their previous work and were blown away with the quality. Safe to say we're strongly considering them for the position.

I work full time for less than $25 an hour and what I do won't be nearly as much fun as coming out into the forest and filming some dudes shredding trails.

Just to give an idea of what we're looking to produce - skip to the one minute mark in this video. Something with this style or riding and editing - in a series of episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7uwkEs-29A

 

[mitchy_]

I work full time for less than $25 an hour and what I do won't be nearly as much fun as coming out into the forest and filming some dudes shredding trails.

do you supply all your own equipment at work? i'm sure you're allowed sick days, annual leave, etc. too...

$25/hour and having to provide all equipment is where i see the fault, i sure as hell charge myself out at more than that given the equipment costs i use.

 

[wesdadude]

Sorry if I come/came off as an utter twat. My criticism is intended as constructive because I want to see your project succeed and I don't want freelancers to be taken advantage of either. I'm glad to see you mention the work being under contract and that you're not trying to pass off "exposure" as compensation.

Thanks for your input. All video editing will be paid for at the same hourly rate. I'll personally be overseeing the editing and working closely with the film maker to produce what I'm looking for. So, if we spend 25 hours filming for an episode we'll be doing more than 25+ hours of paid editing working together.

It's a little clearer now that you've provided those further details. And if there's people willing to work with you over their shoulder for that rate fair play to them. I like to quote jobs as a whole as it gives a concrete amount to prevent us running out of budget and means clients don't have to question and count every hour. Sometimes clients (and even service providers) have unrealistic expectations of the time required. If I run over what I've quoted it's on my head rather than theirs.

I think your comment about getting monkeys is way off - we've received a number of offers today. Mainly from University students studying film but one in particular from a small production company who specialize in adrenaline sports films. We've seen some of their previous work and were blown away with the quality. Safe to say we're strongly considering them for the position.

It's an old saying. I expected you to get a decent number of applicants in the form of students who already have the gear. It seemed like you were expecting higher than that.

I work full time for less than $25 an hour and what I do won't be nearly as much fun as coming out into the forest and filming some dudes shredding trails.

They may pay you that but they sure as hell don't charge clients that. What they pay you is not what they charge to sustain the business.

do you supply all your own equipment at work? i'm sure you're allowed sick days, annual leave, etc. too...
$25/hour and having to provide all equipment is where i see the fault, i sure as hell charge myself out at more than that given the equipment costs i use.

Your full time job also gives you structured hours/breaks. I don't know what you do for a living so it wouldn't be fair to speculate but it's reasonable to assume they don't expect you to be there at 5am for a 10+ hour day.
IIRC TV stations pay their editors at about $27 and they supply all the equipment.

 

[shake_rattle_and_ roll]

At the risk of inferring that you're a bit green or new to the game Intense1, there is absolutely no shortage of quality mtb 'film makers' that have been burnt through this kind of scheme & quite frankly I'm bloody tired of flash in the pans or over-zealous types exploiting them. It becomes a disservice to Aussie filmers & the mtb industry when people/entities exploit the people who make your gig happen by paying them peanuts, whatever it may be.

For what you're looking for, the hourly rate on offer is WAY off the mark & if I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone using the "this is a great opportunity for a (aspiring) film maker" I'd have had an all expenses paid bike trip to NZ several times over.

I'd recommend you fully disclose EXACTLY what you are doing, a clear scope of exactly what the project is & who your client is. If your project has any kind of intention f being used for commercial purposes, then once again you need to come clean & fully disclose.

 

[Intense1]

At the risk of inferring that you're a bit green or new to the game Intense1, there is absolutely no shortage of quality mtb 'film makers' that have been burnt through this kind of scheme & quite frankly I'm bloody tired of flash in the pans or over-zealous types exploiting them. It becomes a disservice to Aussie filmers & the mtb industry when people/entities exploit the people who make your gig happen by paying them peanuts, whatever it may be.

For what you're looking for, the hourly rate on offer is WAY off the mark & if I had a dollar for every time I've heard someone using the "this is a great opportunity for a (aspiring) film maker" I'd have had an all expenses paid bike trip to NZ several times over.

I'd recommend you fully disclose EXACTLY what you are doing, a clear scope of exactly what the project is & who your client is. If your project has any kind of intention f being used for commercial purposes, then once again you need to come clean & fully disclose.

I'm not going to lie, I'm entirely new to the film game and personally have very limited knowledge of film production, the editing process and associated costs. I'm certainly not looking to exploit anyone in any way, shape or form. What my offer boils down to is my limited budget combined with my desire to produce something of a very high quality. I knew there would be individuals out there who had the talent and equipment, who could produce what I'm looking for, and would be willing to work within my budget.

Despite you saying my offer was way off the mark, as mentioned previously I've already received an offer from an individual (the sole person behind a certain media production company) - who has all the required equipment, talent and knowledge to produce what I'm after. I've viewed their previous work and as I stated in my previous post I was just about blown away with the quality, level of professionalism and feel of the videos I viewed. I agree that there are certainly people out there with similar levels of talent who get paid a lot more, but the reality is that this individual may not get a huge amount of work hence they are happy to work within my budget.

To clarify, I will be the sole person behind the project along with the film maker - it will just be the two of us working closely together. I will be paying for it entirely out of my own pocket, in fact I will be putting just about every spare dollar I have towards the project. The project has absolutely zero commercial purpose. It's been a dream of mine for years to produce riding films documenting my life as a rider. When I say to friends or family, "I ride mountain bikes" - they find it hard to put an image to the words and they don't understand what's really involved in being a rider. I'm looking to bring some clarity to people who know nothing about mountain biking, and also something that fellow riders can watch and be inspired.

I am open to receiving further offers, but I can't see myself getting one any better than what I've already received. I'm confident that the individual mentioned will be able to deliver what I'm after, and I'm very excited to get the ball rolling. I'll update this thread when progress is made on the project - stay tuned !