beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
Truth hurts.Thats greatI've informed the 2 Model Y owners on my shift that their cars look like half sucked jellybeans. Strange they didn't think it was funny.
Electric Vehicles etc
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Stredda
Runs naked through virgin scrub
You can still have certified EV repairers do the job, just as you have qualified mechanic work on your car. I don't like the way a lot of things are going (not just EVs) where you can't repair a product. It's made in a way to discourage repair, in favour of replacement.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
Anyone remeber the Ford Taurus? They came in a distinct maroon colour and my dad always said they looked like a half sucked Throatie.Truth hurts.
The Teslas and that new Hyundai, and some other modern EV's suffer from it, they called it "aerodynamics" and it's quite a new thing in the auto industry to achieve maximum "aerodynamic efficiency" so as not to "waste energy" like every other car ever did, except maybe the Taurus. The mind boggles
Scotty T
Walks the walk
100%, it's across every industry and it does really suck. Despite a certified EV repairer, some repairs, like a cooling tube into a HV pack, might still be deemed not safe to cobble a repair together and still warranty the car.
Stredda
Runs naked through virgin scrub
That's where manufacturers need to step up and provide service parts that like that coolant tube would be easy to replace and not replace a whole perfectly serviceable battery pack. Such a wasteful process.
There is whole niche aftermarket industry that's starting to gain momentum that are providing parts to repair EVs where the OME won't support it. You can already see it with the Nissan Leaf. I have noticed it with Ebikes, as most motors aren't "serviceable" according to the manufacturers, but they really are, and instead of just binning the motor, aftermarket companies are now making service kits or providing the service of rebuilding them.
beeb
Dr. Beebenson, PhD HA, ST, Offset (hons)
I actually don't mind it. For starters it doesn't look like it's made of Lego like the other Hyundai, it reminds me more of a modern Citroen DS. Though like the DS they decided to put oddly ugly tail-lights on an otherwise decent looking car.
dancaseyimages
Mountain bike pornographer
That was never my favourite part once I was qualified ticking off the trades assistants work, I know they are usually pretty skilled just without the cert but it's still a risk, it takes a while to get a trades assistant up to spec and I know dealerships its usually 4 to 1 (mechanic/trades assistant) or 3 to 1 for the more expensive ones but I guess that ratio may change with electric cars and more of a chance of something happening.
dancaseyimages
Mountain bike pornographer
I agree with this very much.That's where manufacturers need to step up and provide service parts that like that coolant tube would be easy to replace and not replace a whole perfectly serviceable battery pack. Such a wasteful process.
There is whole niche aftermarket industry that's starting to gain momentum that are providing parts to repair EVs where the OME won't support it. You can already see it with the Nissan Leaf. I have noticed it with Ebikes, as most motors aren't "serviceable" according to the manufacturers, but they really are, and instead of just binning the motor, aftermarket companies are now making service kits or providing the service of rebuilding them.
Whilst the right to repair has made some things very obsolete and obscure to use especially in Australia.
I looked into the Fairphone a while ago, there was limitations on the networks it could work with and a bit of a hacky solution for use in Australia.
Fairphone - Wikipedia
And then theres the modular laptops (Which I am looking at but will await some tech conferences where I can see them/ask questions of real world users before taking the dip)
Framework | Framework Laptop 16 pre-orders are now open
My last laptop a Dell XPS, is so thin and the casing is just wedged together that when 'repaired' where the whole motherboard was replaced due to a dying HDD, ended up slightly bent. Which meant returning for a new unit, the older Macbooks were easy to open up but reading the Verge article (linked below) sounds like its quite an effort now with the Apple products too.
The right-to-repair movement is just getting started - The Verge
I did have a quick google last night and there is lots of Nissan Leaf parts / things you can do at home without to many specialized tools like Brakes etc but the Tesla's I guess you just buy in knowing that you need a Texpert to do all the jobs. Like the Apple Genuis bar.
Haakon
Keeps on digging
Teslas should be ok for normal diy stuff like brakes and suspension and trim etc etc. A motor swap might be an issue, depends on they’re coded to the car and need to be enabled - not sure if there are OBD readers that will talk to all functions and configurations in Tesla
ozzybmx
Not a tree-hugging earth muffin
Coulda said that about Toyota with the Prius.
Did they recognise the popularity and purposely not go full EV for some reason. Every taxi in this city is a Toyo Hybrid something. Why did they stop at Hybrid.
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indica
can sometimes count all the way up to 3
It pairs well with the inverter - also Fronius - and can take only solar if required.
Asininedrivel
caviar connoisseur
What are you on about? Car manufacturers have been obsessed with aerodynamic efficiency since forever, they even used drag coefficiency figures as a selling point for cars in the 1980s (yes really).Anyone remeber the Ford Taurus? They came in a distinct maroon colour and my dad always said they looked like a half sucked Throatie.
The Teslas and that new Hyundai, and some other modern EV's suffer from it, they called it "aerodynamics" and it's quite a new thing in the auto industry to achieve maximum "aerodynamic efficiency" so as not to "waste energy" like every other car ever did, except maybe the Taurus. The mind boggles
The Model Y might have an annoyingly low drag coefficiency of 0.23, but that's still only 0.3 better than a 1989 Holden Calibra.
Scotty T
Walks the walk
C'mon dude the throatie effect is real, your link proves it!
I was kinda taking the piss, but also commenting on other SUV's the size of the Y which are bricks on wheels comparitively. The trend has gone not too far (surely the massive size of the newer cars negate some of the better aerodynamics) since the Calibra, until EV's started to try and fix range anxiety.
I was kinda taking the piss, but also commenting on other SUV's the size of the Y which are bricks on wheels comparitively. The trend has gone not too far (surely the massive size of the newer cars negate some of the better aerodynamics) since the Calibra, until EV's started to try and fix range anxiety.
cDA is the key factor and it will be low. Interesting that Musk has so many dogs to model from.
Flow-Rider
Burner
Probably won't get them here, but they look nice.