COVID-19: who’s going full doomsday prep on this?

Kerplunk

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Brother has a mild cold for 4 weeks, youngest son has a cough for 2 weeks, wife and oldest son have nothing :oops:

Strange thing is that every one of us here will get it in the next few years. The chat of vax symptoms will become vid symptoms in due time.
Did you see this article about the UK? Very similar to what your saying and what I have heard from relo’s in London..

“For Australia, there is one simple message to take away from the British experience: vaccination does not mean the end of COVID-19. What vaccination means is that for most people, bar the elderly and clinically vulnerable, a potentially life-threatening illness becomes “the shittiest flu”. And suddenly, the pandemic loses its sting.”



https://www.afr.com/world/europe/in...-my-friends-are-getting-covid-20210924-p58uee
(article was unlocked last time I read it)
 

tubby74

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Did a loop around silverwater, meadowbank and rhodes today. Mask use was well under 50%. Are people just sick of it, or jumping the gun with talk of freedom in 2-3 weeks?
 

ForkinGreat

Knows his Brassica oleracea
Did a loop around silverwater, meadowbank and rhodes today. Mask use was well under 50%. Are people just sick of it, or jumping the gun with talk of freedom in 2-3 weeks?
both. Many people I see have their masks in their hand, as a chinstrap or dicknose style.
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
Did you see this article about the UK? Very similar to what your saying and what I have heard from relo’s in London..

“For Australia, there is one simple message to take away from the British experience: vaccination does not mean the end of COVID-19. What vaccination means is that for most people, bar the elderly and clinically vulnerable, a potentially life-threatening illness becomes “the shittiest flu”. And suddenly, the pandemic loses its sting.”


https://www.afr.com/world/europe/in...-my-friends-are-getting-covid-20210924-p58uee
(article was unlocked last time I read it)
Locked, cant read !

My brother only got tested because someone at his work tested positive, the employer then told everyone to go and get tested.

He reckons he may have had it for a few weeks as there were dozens of employees positive.

Potentially someone else brought it in and gave it to a load of people, one of them then discovered they were positive. So the first discovered positive person probably wasn't even the initial spreader, rather the one who maybe had the worst symptoms and went to see what it was.

They dont even look at it anymore as 'bloody kerplunk brought corona in and gave it to us all', they all know they are getting it eventually and happy when the symptoms play out to be mild.
 

pink poodle

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Did a loop around silverwater, meadowbank and rhodes today. Mask use was well under 50%. Are people just sick of it, or jumping the gun with talk of freedom in 2-3 weeks?
Round here people just haven't bothered...except for the brief entry to a cafe to buy their essential coffee, myself included. Some folks will have a mask on hand and hold it over their face a they walk past you.

both. Many people I see have their masks in their hand, as a chinstrap or dicknose style.
You guys are miles behind the trend. Her it is worn on the bicep, much how phones are worn by runners.
 

Kerplunk

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Locked, cant read !

My brother only got tested because someone at his work tested positive, the employer then told everyone to go and get tested.

He reckons he may have had it for a few weeks as there were dozens of employees positive.

Potentially someone else brought it in and gave it to a load of people, one of them then discovered they were positive. So the first discovered positive person probably wasn't even the initial spreader, rather the one who maybe had the worst symptoms and went to see what it was.

They dont even look at it anymore as 'bloody kerplunk brought corona in and gave it to us all', they all know they are getting it eventually and happy when the symptoms play out to be mild.
here is a copy paste of the article;


In vaccinated Britain, all my friends are getting COVID-19


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Signs of life in London. Bloomberg
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London | As Australia presses towards the coveted 80 per cent vaccination threshold, what’s it like to live in a country that has already got there? Probably not quite what you’d expect.
Take the week I’ve just had. On the sidelines of my son’s soccer game last weekend, one of the other parents tells me that she’d just got back from an extended family reunion in Wales, and nine out of 16 people came away with COVID-19. They were all double-vaccinated.
The next day, we ring some of my wife’s relatives to ask how their trip to Spain was. They both have COVID-19. The husband described it to me as “like the shittiest flu I’ve ever had”. They were both double-vaccinated.
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Signs of life in London. Bloomberg

Mid-week, I go to a press conference with about 20 journalists. The host says: “Great to see so many of you here – only one person has called in to say they couldn’t come because they had COVID.”
My wife decides to skip her university reunion. Afterwards, though, a message goes around saying someone tested positive for COVID-19 following the event, so everyone should probably take a lateral flow test.
My younger son has a play date this weekend. His mum rings to say that her elder boy has tested positive for COVID-19. Her other kids will still go to school and the play date is going ahead.
For Australia, there is one simple message to take away from the British experience: vaccination does not mean the end of COVID-19. What vaccination means is that for most people, bar the elderly and clinically vulnerable, a potentially life-threatening illness becomes “the shittiest flu”. And suddenly, the pandemic loses its sting.
What’s really striking about London right now is that, although many people are having the same experience as me, nobody is really talking about it. COVID-19 often doesn’t feature in the morning news headlines. Daily press conferences are no longer held. This week, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has quite possibly not mentioned coronavirus even once.
The case numbers have been ticking up this week: the 36,710 positive cases on Thursday was the highest in a fortnight, and the number is back above 30,000 every day. Now that the summer is over, there’s reportedly high incidence in schools.[/COLOR]
Deaths associated with COVID-19 are still upward of 160 a day. But daily admissions to hospital have actually eased off into the 700s, for a total of 7588 altogether – almost the lowest this month. These numbers are individual tragedies, and they are certainly not trivial. But they are stable.

Normalisation of COVID-19

The number that is still climbing is the vaccination rate: 82.1 per cent of British people aged 16-plus are double-jabbed, and almost 90 per cent have had one dose.
There is still the possibility that things could go wrong. But with every passing week, the normalisation of COVID-19 is becoming more and more established in Britain.
Mask-wearing is dropping away very rapidly. Handshaking is common again. Only people who actually test positive have to self-isolate. The streets of London are visibly, tangibly busier. People are congregating at indoor events.
At every party or reception I’ve been to, the atmosphere has been one of enthusiasm, even relief. Each one has had a vibe a bit like a wedding – no cliques, no VIPs talking only to each other, just everyone falling on each other, relishing conversation with strangers like thirsty men in a desert.

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James Bond beats the bug.
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Travel rules have been simplified; it’s possible to go pretty much anywhere in Europe now with pretty minimal fuss, and people are doing so. The new James Bond film, which was ready to roll into cinemas in April last year and was then repeatedly delayed, is finally coming out on September 30. Agent 007 has beaten the virus, and it feels hugely symbolic.
It’s not universally rosy, of course. The pandemic has left thousands of people suffering from mental health issues, or economic dislocation. University kids are still locked into online-only learning for a second year running.
But there are more and more reasons to be cheerful. Worries about a scary new strain are ebbing, for example. Dame Sarah Gilbert, the Oxford professor and anointed national saint credited with developing the AstraZeneca vaccine, said this week that the most likely scenario was one of decreasing virulence.
“The virus can’t completely mutate because its spike protein has to interact with the ACE2 receptor on the surface of the human cell, in order to get inside that cell,” she told the Royal Society of Medicine.
“If it changes its spike protein so much that it can’t interact with that receptor, then it’s not going to be able to get inside that cell. So, there aren’t very many places for the virus to go, to have something that will evade immunity but still be a really infectious virus.”
I’m not sure that I really know what she’s talking about, but it’s Dame Sarah, so I know I’m less worried than before.

Post-pandemic insouciance

There has also been good news on long COVID. In April, the Office of National Statistics estimated that one in 10 people might be suffering from long COVID; its latest, more comprehensive research suggests the figure could be fewer than one in 40. And double-vaccination is thought to halve the risk.
I’m double-vaccinated and I had COVID-19 last Christmas. But I suspect I will get it again in the next little while. Based on people I know, it will hang around for a week or two, giving me headaches and making me pretty dysfunctional. But I have a respiratory infection like that pretty much every winter.

I’m still taking basic precautions, and I wear a mask on public transport to try and avoid infecting others. But I’ve otherwise bought into Britain’s post-pandemic insouciance.
I’m expecting the National Health Service to have a bad winter, as it so often does; this could well reignite the COVID crisis. But actually, I suspect the government has done a pretty good job of rolling this pitch, and people’s sense of what constitutes a crisis has been recalibrated to a much higher level.
I am not arguing that Britain has done everything right, or that Britain is out of the woods. But what the British experiment does show Australia is that 80 per cent double-vaccination is not a pathway back to a pre-pandemic Eden.
It does not eliminate COVID-19. Almost the opposite: the disease is rife here, and will continue to be. But for most of us who are double-vaccinated, and who are not elderly or clinically vulnerable, COVID-19 has – for now – become more a source of inconvenience than a source of anxiety and fear.
It’s not the most sunlit of uplands, but I hope Australians can find their way here, too.
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
Thats exactly how he described it, a non-event and a PITA that he has to stay at home for 10 days :)

COVID-19 has – for now – become more a source of inconvenience than a source of anxiety and fear.

Interesting that the journo reckons they will get it again.

I’m double-vaccinated and I had COVID-19 last Christmas. But I suspect I will get it again in the next little while.
 

moorey

call me Mia
I am pretty sure that frontline healthcare workers dealing with around 1000 hospitalizations a day see it as more than a minor inconvenience.
I’m not saying it isn’t the inevitable future for us, I’m just saying not everyone will breeze through it like the rose coloured article suggests.
We still really don’t know the long term effects…..and the UK has had nearly 140k deaths so far. Not a small price for freedom.
 

tubby74

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seems plenty of places are starting to take bookings for re-opening. local karting place said to start booking christmas parties, luna park selling tickets for late october. it would be very hard politically to change anything if numbers dont go the right way. im looking forward to getting out a bit in 2 weeks, but hope they make sure its the right time before they open the floodgates
 

Dales Cannon

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Wife's brother in the UK contracted covid a couple of weeks back. He is a high risk individual with multiple health issues so was vaccinated (AZ) early on. He felt cold and flu symptoms and did a lateral flow test which came back positive. He was then told to isolate at home for 14 days. In the process of this he lost track of time and missed out some meds and ended up with medical complications and into hospital he went. Was released recently with improved health and a negative test and sent back home to isolate a further 7 days in case the virus was lingering in his flat. Was very casual about the whole thing and said he couldn't think of anyone in his circle of friends and family who haven't had covid... Scary stuff.

We went to a wedding yesterday after the relaxing of some of the mask rules and it just felt weird. Plenty still wearing masks and of course masks when you cannot socially distance. Venue was set up according to the new rules and tables that pre covid would seat 10 or 12 had 6 people on them. Staff were masked up and did drink runs so no one had to wander to the bar and the outdoor smoking deck had crosses on the floor and people pretty much adhered to those. Was still a bit weird. The whole venue was quite busy and felt like it was full but obviously that is just how 75% feels after 18 months of no interactions. I did have some fun when we left, it was raining and I had to park the 4wd on a grassy knoll (waiting for JFK) down a couple of embankments and a few hundred metres from the carpark. When we left I grabbed the car and instead of doing the 3 sides around a square drove straight up the banks and over the kerbs into the main carpark and then drove up to the entrance. There were a couple of cars stopped in the roadway as they had no idea where or why lights were appearing from that area!
 

LPG

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I'm very excited to get out of the nsw lockdown but will be very wary of some things. I want to get out of the local area and do some camping, riding my local trails that are just outside my lga, and small day trips to beaches, bush areas etc. Also would be good to see parents/inlaws etc as our son is 5 months old and family hasn't been able to see him in person. We've also had a weekend away planned that has been pushed back blue to lockdowns twice

But going to indoor venues like non-essential shops in person, pubs, restaurants, gyms, cinemas etc? This wasn't frequent for me but I'm planning to stay well away. I'm sure we'll all get it at some point and I'm not vulnerable and soon to to double vaxed but I really want to avoid this until after the first wave of post lockdown infections, it has some proper potential to get seriously messy and we still need to flatten that curve. It wasn't seen as that big a deal overseas as they were used to the big case numbers and deaths. We haven't been desensitised to it yet and we may be in for a proper shock.
 

ashes_mtb

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I recall reading somewhere that the Covid jabs are more effective on people that have previously had Covid. Not massive more so, but I wonder if it’s enough to see Australia have a different experience to the UK as things get opened up.
 

The Duckmeister

Has a juicy midrange
I remember reading something similar. I can't recall the exact details, but something along the lines of the immune system produces a different type of antibody when exposed to the virus to what it does in response to a vaccine. So basically someone who's previously had it has an extra line of defence against re-infection. Still not total immunity, but a bit closer.
 

Minlak

custom titis
I remember reading something similar. I can't recall the exact details, but something along the lines of the immune system produces a different type of antibody when exposed to the virus to what it does in response to a vaccine. So basically someone who's previously had it has an extra line of defence against re-infection. Still not total immunity, but a bit closer.
Should research cbf and I am sure will be correctly informed fairly quickly

Wasn’t this Sweden’s approach to go for herd immunity - I think they even have a fairly low vaccination rate as they relied more heavily on people getting infected.
 
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