Chunt of the year.

moorey

call me Mia
Looks like a deliberately misleading headline to me, trying to insinuate that 200 of the were paedophiles when actually it's probably just 200 with a criminal record.

Can't be bothered clicking to find out.
Oh, 100%. Probably 5 were convicted sex offenders.
2 had sent dick pics and 2 were statuary rape because GF was 14 when he was 17 (absolutely not minimising either of those).
It's clickbait. Men suck, but that's designed to make us clutch our pearls and whither into our fainting couch.
 

dazz

Downhill Dazz
That explains a bunch of serious offences but doesn't confirm or deny the clickbait of the headline
Agreed.
"A shocking 200 pedophile and criminal firefighters have been booted from Queensland’s ranks over serious sexual and violent offences."
It kind of infers that pedo doesn't fall under criminal so needs to be listed separately. Is it shocking? Is 200 from the entirety of QLD's firefighters disproportionate to an equivalent sample demographic from the general population?
Typical clickbait headline.

Not condoning any form of criminal activity, but offenders who have served their punishment should to be able to contribute to society. A firey is possibly not the worst employment option for a reformed bad guy. Without all the relevant info, I can't really form a solid opinion. I also highly doubt that article provides all the necessary info. Likely more of an opinion piece than impartial reporting of the facts.
 

Flow-Rider

Burner
That explains a bunch of serious offences but doesn't confirm or deny the clickbait of the headline
Most of the refuted offences for a blue card are child related offences, except for murder of an Adult. Blue cards are needed when you work with children, nothing else, if you pose any danger or threat to a child you will be refuted. They aren't going to be worried if you've stolen 100 cars or got caught with 1 gram of crack previously, that would come under a police criminal check.
 

Tubbsy

Packin' a small bird
Staff member
Likely more of an opinion piece than impartial reporting of the facts.
Quite possible that many of the 200 individuals are on the RFS database as lapsed or inactive or whatever.

200 paedos within currently active fire fighters would be a truly extraordinary statistic.

Most of the refuted offences for a blue card are child related offences, except for murder of an Adult. Blue cards are needed when you work with children, nothing else, if you pose any danger or threat to a child you will be refuted. They aren't going to be worried if you've stolen 100 cars or got caught with 1 gram of crack previously, that would come under a police criminal check.
Can you copy and paste the text from the article pls
 

Flow-Rider

Burner
Quite possible that many of the 200 individuals are on the RFS database as lapsed or inactive or whatever.

200 paedos within currently active fire fighters would be a truly extraordinary statistic.



Can you copy and paste the text from the article pls

Two hundred pedophile and criminal firefighters have been booted from Queensland’s ranks over serious sexual and violent offences.
The action was taken to weed out the QFES employees and volunteers after a compulsory requirement to apply for Blue Cards revealed their criminal pasts.

A further 40 who tried to apply for jobs were immediately knocked back after failing their Blue Cards.

The requirement for the state’s 40,000 firefighters to pass Blue Card checks came into place on March 31 this yearafter several deadline extensions and loud complaints from volunteers around the additional paperwork and threats they’d rather quit than comply.

People are disqualified from holding Blue Cards if they have been convicted of a disqualifying offence, including having sex with a child, other child-related sexual or pornography offences, or serious sexual or violent offences against anyone.

Queensland Fire and Emergency Services personnel have been required to pass Blue Card checks since March. Picture: Zizi Averill
Police and Fire and Emergency Services Minister Mark Ryan said the government made no apologies for the new rules.

“The government is committed to keeping children safe,” he said.

“That is the reason the Blue Card system was introduced.”

The requirement was introduced following a review, with top brass noting officers were involved in community work, from rescue services to fire safety education at schools and community groups.

“As at June 30, 40 people who had applied to join QFES had been knocked back because they received adverse findings on their Blue Card application,” Mr Ryan said.

“The government makes no apologies for that.

“The priority is the safety of children.

“Around 200 QFES personnel also received adverse notices on their Blue Card applications.

“They have all been stood down or dismissed, and will remain so unless they are able to successfully appeal the Blue Card Services decision.”

Minister for Fire and Emergency Services Mark Ryan. Picture: Kevin Farmer
About 2000 volunteers had not applied for a Blue Card by the March 31 deadline, most of them volunteers.

However, QFES believes many of them are not still active volunteers, have moved, or can’t be contacted.

Mr Ryan said QFES had assured him they “have the appropriate personnel numbers to respond to all operational matters” while an active-two year recruitment campaign continues.

“Queensland is the most disaster-prone state in the country, therefore it is paramount we attract, retain and support the best people for the job which is why QFES has implemented the QFES volunteer recruitment campaigns,” he said.

“These campaigns look at place-based recruitment, how we recruit the right people for the right roles in the right locations – community focused, community implemented – backed by offering more contemporary and flexible volunteering roles to meet the ever-dynamic and changing community landscape.

“Volunteers and staff continue to recruit volunteers into areas where volunteers are required.”
 

Tubbsy

Packin' a small bird
Staff member
So the article unsurprisingly doesn't break down how many of the 200 were involved with child abuse.

Under the 'serious offences' category there's also some generic drug offences.

So quite possibly a bunch of them are being booted because they sold some pot when they were younger.

Ultimately whoever wrote the article either doesn't know the breakdown of the offences, or they've chosen not to include the detail because it undermines the inferences in the headline.

the article said:
However, QFES believes many of them are not still active volunteers, have moved, or can’t be contacted.
This suspicious line also makes me wonder how many of the 200 were 'booted' because they didn't apply for their blue cards in the first place.
 

Flow-Rider

Burner
QPS don't help keep the police numbers up, giving my brother the boot at 60. Mandatory retirement
They carry a lot of dead wood behind the scenes, coppers that have physiological issues are usually hidden in desk jobs because they're classed as unfit to work with the public. I've met quite a few over the years and I'd say it's one of the worst jobs in the world, they deal with the scum of the earth and a lot of life extinction, and it really fucks them after a while.
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
They carry a lot of dead wood behind the scenes, coppers that have physiological issues are usually hidden in desk jobs because they're classed as unfit to work with the public. I've met quite a few over the years and I'd say it's one of the worst jobs in the world, they deal with the scum of the earth and a lot of life extinction, and it really fucks them after a while.
Me too, have a few 'changed' mates sadly :(
 

ozzybmx

taking a shit with my boobs out
The whole industry in Qld is fucked, there's a lot of hierarchy bullying. I also think it's one of those jobs that doesn't have much public appreciation as well.
Call them old chunts out, fuck them off. The old Gov pension scheme made them hold on to the end... The end was years ago dickhead... Not you Flowy, them ;)
 

safreek

*******
The whole industry in Qld is fucked, there's a lot of hierarchy bullying. I also think it's one of those jobs that doesn't have much public appreciation as well.
I think if you keep the older copper going you have a more level head with much more experience.
A lot of young coppers are a chore, not in lismore though, they seem fine.
 

mas2

Likes Bikes and Dirt
2 cyclists in Victoria have been deliberately hit by a car with the video posted to social media. One in his 50's and one in his 70's. This is so disgusting. Stay safe out there.

 
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