Project anyone have experiance with Pinon gearboxes / pinon equipped bikes?

[discofrank]

As above

as i have plans for a new bike...
I am looking into a pinon gearbox ( like the zerodes from NZ but not a zerode ! )

So has anyone ridden a mtb with a pinion box?

did you like it?
good bad?
what about the grip shifter? how did it feel compared to say a normal thumb?

cheers

 

[crank1979]

I've had a Nicolai Helius AC Pinion for a few years now.

It is brilliant. Much better than a derailleur or a Rohloff for mtbing.

The grip shift is a non-issue that gets complained about by people who haven't ridden the Pinion gearbox.

The extra weight is the only downside. The new 12 and 9 speed versions bring the weight down so it's closer to a derailleur set up, but there's no flimsy, expensive derailleur hanging down to get ripped off or bent.

 

[discofrank]

cheers

im not worried about the weight, when im close on 100kgs 1/2 kilo aint going to matter too me
plus it is down in the BB where, if u had to have it, is the better place

I have never ridden a grip shift bike, hence asking, i like the idea of being able to change to any gear i like without pedaling

do u need to adjust the cables at all?
i know there is a yearly oil change ( like 60ml )

 

[Ultra Lord]

The grip shift is a non-issue that gets complained about by people who haven't ridden the Pinion gearbox.

I figured that would be the case. Grip shift was fine untill I got used to paddles, and nobody complains about a moto throttle.

One day I'll try a gearbox bike, less maintenance, better chainline, weight nice and central, awesome.
And they'll get cheaper too hopefully.

 

[Haakon]

How do you feel about the frictional losses in the gearbox?

 

[crank1979]

The Pinion feels like it has less drag than the Rohloff. It feels about the same as a derailleur set up to me, possibly because the chainline is always good. The two change over gears at 6 or 7 and 12 or 13 feel like they have more drag than a derailleur but that's about it.

 

[discofrank]

awesome!

cheers for the info

now to chat to the builder!

 

[NeoNasty]

I also LOVE the idea of a Pinion equipped bike but can't stomach the price for the frames.

I haven't ridden with one either. From all reports I've read you get used to it very quickly and don't think about it after a few rides.

Any ideas about what your getting built?

-Shaun

 

[discofrank]

I also LOVE the idea of a Pinion equipped bike but can't stomach the price for the frames.

I haven't ridden with one either. From all reports I've read you get used to it very quickly and don't think about it after a few rides.

Any ideas about what your getting built?

-Shaun

full custom titanium job, locally made , single pivot, the builder can build it with the pinon too
thoughts are 160mm travel front and rear, with 27+ tyres
i want an allrounder, does not have to excell and nything, but able to do everything and with a smile on my dial!
KISS therom, a pinion g/box with a single piovot = Sweet fuck all in maintainece

 

[NeoNasty]

full custom titanium job, locally made , single pivot, the builder can build it with the pinon too
thoughts are 160mm travel front and rear, with 27+ tyres
i want an allrounder, does not have to excell and nything, but able to do everything and with a smile on my dial!
KISS therom, a pinion g/box with a single piovot = Sweet fuck all in maintainece

Brilliant!

Send images when you've got it in your hands.

 

[born-again-biker]

I hope these things are the future and not a side show...

.....because if there is one area on the the bike that I HATE working on, it's the bloody derailleur/chain/shifters etc.

 

[discofrank]

I hope these things are the future and not a side show...

.....because if there is one area on the the bike that I HATE working on, it's the bloody derailleur/chain/shifters etc.

hahhaa

https://www.zerodebikes.com/

inspiration! read up on the reviews!
my bike will be a simialar cost i just dont like carbon

 

[No Skid Marks]

http://www.crankin.net.au/?product=pinion-p1-12-gearbox-shifter-tensioner-cables-cranks-sprocket

 

[discofrank]

http://www.crankin.net.au/?product=pinion-p1-12-gearbox-shifter-tensioner-cables-cranks-sprocket

i got tagged on one from a zerode in SA ... 1k

 

[No Skid Marks]

i got tagged on one from a zerode in SA ... 1k

What a score.
careful it’s not stolen. That silly cheap and odd they’d sell the gearbox seperate.

 

[discofrank]

What a score.
careful it’s not stolen. That silly cheap and odd they’d sell the gearbox seperate.

yer i did not pull the pin..
as funds are not there..
would hate to see a 1K part sitting in the shed.. now if someone would by my ducati... helloooo zerode!

 

[discofrank]

UPDATE

So i have a frame on the way! woohooo!

 

[Rossm]

For those interested - a new bike company in UK has frames or full builds with Pinion - Deviate Cycles - see this link
Nice write-up on SingleTack World on this link

 

[discofrank]

For those interested - a new bike company in UK has frames or full builds with Pinion - Deviate Cycles - see this link
Nice write-up on SingleTack World on this link

yer saw this the other day! even more $$$ than the NZ zerode..

cant wait for mine... now if
only the bank did not fuck something up! grrgrgrgrgrgrggr