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fatboyonabike

Wheel size expert
That's what I was thinking or showing my age a San Andreas, so what's a non electric non acoustic bike called? Most noises would be the puffing and panting of the pedaller.
Yes, my San An made alot of weird and not so wonderful noises..some unsettling, some of more concern!
 

BB1

Likes Dirt
I have the e160 8000 and am super happy with it. I have both acoustic and electric bikes, and jump on either depending on my mood and time I have available. As an example, when I've got 1.5 hours available, I'm jump on the e160 and bang out 25-30km on my local loop with lots of climbing. I have a ball, am sore in the upper body as there's more downhill, and get a ride in. I'll ride the acoustic with mates when I have 3-4 hours spare, which is becoming more rare as the kids get older.

In regards to battery usage, the best thing about the Shimano is that it's fully customisable. As an example, I've kept eco the same, but wound down assistance in trail as well to extend range. I only use boost on the road, and have found that eco is fine pretty much everywhere on single track. Even with hills, I'll sit and spin, it just means it is a little slower, which is often no bad thing. Finding it easy to get 60km+ on a mountain bike ride, but I'm usually stuffed after 40km, just like on an acoustic MTB!
 

mas2

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Update time as I just pumped out over 1100km. Love riding it and it's the best thing I have ever done.
Get about 30km on full charge if super hilly and about 40km if not which is perfect for the amount of riding I can get in.
Love the little info screen. Only thing I wish it did would be record elevation.
Don't really notice the weight except for lifting it on/off the car.
Hate the motor friction at the 25km/h mark but it's a worthwhile tradeoff for the zoomies up.

If I bought again the next bike the main things I would look for would be:
1 - less friction from motor
2 - slightly larger battery
3 - maybe more aggressive geo

Changes:
  • Setup tubeless with Stans, Dert, and blue bear tape.
  • Forks swapped to the Z1's and switched out with black graphics from Slik. Cant understand why the Marz/Fox people put a gold knob with an anodised grey one.
  • Seat switched to Ergon as I landed on the last one and bent the rails
  • Grips changed back to the original. Love the ESI's but they just fall apart after a few scrapes and a tear from the end just kept growing.
Notes:
  • Shimano drivetrain holding up well. Might need a chain change soon.
  • Lost the battery cover which was found by Flow-rider. Got a spare now too which is mounted on pretty well.
  • Deity pedals have a couple of little plastic pins which have snapped off and a couple of the metal pins are gone so will fix them
  • Thinking of coil rear and converting forks to coil. Not sure which will have the most benefits. Would need a progressive coil rear.
  • Dropper is feeling pretty rough. Have lubed it and cleaned out the top of it too but it's not that much better.
  • I find because I am riding it more it's getting abused and damaged so I am less concerned about keeping it perfect
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Minlak

would blow a manky old hobo for $20
Are you running it on turbo for the 30 - 40km range ? That seems a bit low?
 

Minlak

would blow a manky old hobo for $20
Only turbo on the fire roads. I reckon the trail assistance could be turned down which would give me more range.
What size is the battery? And do you have a readout of the battery condition? That just seems really low
 

mas2

Likes Bikes and Dirt
What size is the battery? And do you have a readout of the battery condition? That just seems really low
It's the 500Wh battery. Riding with a friend who has a Trance SX E+ Pro and he gets about the same when we ride.
 

Minlak

would blow a manky old hobo for $20
It's the 500Wh battery. Riding with a friend who has a Trance SX E+ Pro and he gets about the same when we ride.
Maybe cause I ride in Eco I just have an in realistic expectation of what you should be getting :) still they are nice bikes
 

Nambra

Postmeridian
Nice update @mas2, glad you’re still having a blast on it.

If I bought again the next bike the main things I would look for would be:
1 - less friction from motor
2 - slightly larger battery
3 - maybe more aggressive geo
Sell a kidney and get the new Bullit? Certainly ticks off on 2&3, imagine the new EP8 motor is a big leap forward on the E8000 too...
 

Calvin27

Eats Squid
Why don't you take tothe maxxiss text with a sharpie and make it more black? Also black bottle to suit?
 

mas2

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Nice update @mas2, glad you’re still having a blast on it.



Sell a kidney and get the new Bullit? Certainly ticks off on 2&3, imagine the new EP8 motor is a big leap forward on the E8000 too...
Definitely anything with an EP8 and the new 600W battery would interest me but I wouldnt be allowed to anyway. From what I have seen the EP8 is better with the friction but now has a knock/click sound. I'd be happy with that as a tradeoff.
 

mas2

Likes Bikes and Dirt
Update time!

Just hit 1500km and still love it.

Upgrades:
Megneg - I was certain I would go coil except the suspension is meant to be too linear so the suggestion is to get a progressive coil. I thought I would give the Megneg a go after reading a few forum reviews and am so glad I did because it is such a fantastic upgrade, especially for the price. Before I couldn't get the super deluxe setup right and I would either feel everything or just blow through the travel but now it tracks really well and handles chunky stuff super well. Can still take a spacer out which I think I will just to get that last bit of travel.

Coil Fork - Another awesome upgrade @beeb . Put a coil in the Z1 and bumped from 160 to 170mm travel with the firm spring. I think it sits about 15mm higher now though than the air version did. I immediately noticed the slacker head angle with turning and it feels more comfortable just sitting that bit more upright. I did some familiar chunky trails a lot faster than normal on the weekend and it and not even using full travel. It even gave the bottom bracket that bit more clearance so that I don't scrape it on small logs anymore in a place that has about 4 in a row.

Dropper - It was feeling super rough and I took it apart and noticed a bit of stanchion wear inside and grooving inside the bottom post guide channels. It wasnt covered by warranty but I noticed that because the upper only has 2 keyways but the bottom post had 4 channels if I rotated it 90 degrees then it felt perfect again.

Brakes - The basic 4 pot deore brakes are fantastic and ample for pulling my 90kg's.

Cons:
Same gripes as before which a slightly larger battery would be better and motor drag at the 25km/h affects my confidence with taking bigger jumps.
Dropper length is only 125mm. I would prefer 170/200mm with 150mm at a minimum but due to the short tube any longer and they cant be slammed all the way down.

Conclusion:
Can't believe it was a 1/4 of the price of the new Levo.
I find it really interesting that a lot of the new bikes have the same motor and frame across all models and just tweak all the componetry. I am thinking about the newest base model Merida with the EP8 and 604wh battery and swapping my stuff over just for that. It's not all black though...

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