Ai: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Rotorburn.....

fjohn860

fjohn860

Alice in diaperland
So I've mucked about with AI a couple of times in the past for a laugh, but I really don't know a lot about it.

It's obviously the next big thing in the technology space and is going to change/affect a lot of things in the future.

My latest dabble was asking chatgpt for a new shim-stack tune to give me more compression damping... I then used restackor to confirm the recommendation.

Stay tuned (pun intended) as I do intend to try the recommended shim-stack.


In the meantime, what are your experiences with Ai?

Do you use it regularly?

Never?

Or, "fkn fk using that, Skynet is just waiting to awaken"...

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For me, working in a creative field, I'm not a big fan of generative AI - it's basically just stealing people's work and smooshing it together into an un-attributed mess to line the pockets of the latest tech bros. Pleasingly, because AI can't really 'see' what it's making, it generates a lot of weird stuff which you can't ask it to correct. In cinema, a lot of generated AI shots are ultimately useless because there's little ability to fine-tune to a director's specific requests. But it hasn't stopped studios trying to short-change VFX artists and other professionals.

It's also aiming to take work from voice actors, writers and a bunch of other people who've worked hard to master their craft.

On the other hand, for applications like this shim stack it's pretty interesting. Consolidating a lot of boring information into something useful and digestible.

Biggest potential issue is the AI 'hallucinating', where it just makes shit up and presents it with full confidence including, sometimes, fake references to books and papers that never existed.

Interested to hear how this turns out for you @fjohn860
 
I was discussing AI with someone the other day. Using AI to search and compile search engine results is much better than using Google. But it's not that much better than Google 15 years ago when Google was a search engine as opposed to an advertising system pretending to be a search engine.
 
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I havent used it much, but from what I've see its basically google for ebikers, errr lazy people. Rather than having to sift through info it will pick what it thinks is most relevant and present it to you. The problem is there is a lot of misinformation and just straight up bullshit on the internet.
You know Rockshox and Fox have all their shim-stack tunes available on their websites in the tech documents?
 
chatgpt seems pretty good at giving useful answers compared to trying to IBM's documentation. which is perfectly true but never helps at all with the issues. bashing out code on a keyboard is already being evolved anyway, im sure it will get smarter and mean less and less keying of code
 
Mattyp said:
I havent used it much, but from what I've see its basically google for ebikers, errr lazy people. Rather than having to sift through info it will pick what it thinks is most relevant and present it to you. The problem is there is a lot of misinformation and just straight up bullshit on the internet.
You know Rockshox and Fox have all their shim-stack tunes available on their websites in the tech documents?
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Yes they do.

Just not for their non-serviceable Charger RC

Tubbsy said:
For me, working in a creative field, I'm not a big fan of generative AI - it's basically just stealing people's work and smooshing it together into an un-attributed mess to line the pockets of the latest tech bros. Pleasingly, because AI can't really 'see' what it's making, it generates a lot of weird stuff which you can't ask it to correct. In cinema, a lot of generated AI shots are ultimately useless because there's little ability to fine-tune to a director's specific requests. But it hasn't stopped studios trying to short-change VFX artists and other professionals.

It's also aiming to take work from voice actors, writers and a bunch of other people who've worked hard to master their craft.

On the other hand, for applications like this shim stack it's pretty interesting. Consolidating a lot of boring information into something useful and digestible.

Biggest potential issue is the AI 'hallucinating', where it just makes shit up and presents it with full confidence including, sometimes, fake references to books and papers that never existed.

Interested to hear how this turns out for you @fjohn860
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The stealing of people's work is definitely a major issue I can see with in.
 
I haven't really used it, but as Tubby said, my biggest worry is that it will provide a solution that isn't correct and you have no way to verify or check how it came to that recommendation/conclusion.

I have had to edit some of the copy/proposals that guys in my team have used it to write, and it is fucking terrible for that. It writes 3 paragraphs that all say the same thing in slightly different ways, and none of it is in a way that reads as 'natural' so it all has to be re-written. I have began to refuse to edit anything which doesn't appear to be written by a human, which has made me very popular :D
 
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I did the same thing with Open Copilot. It would argue that Strawberry only had one "R". You have to list each letter, so it understands. This is because the AI transformer architecture is not able to take in or output actual text efficiently. Instead, the text is converted into numerical representations of itself, which is then contextualized to help the AI come up with a logical response.

I have used AI for writing a letter to explain why logging the Dial Range is a bad idea. It was pretty good as it laid it all out in a nice format, added links to websites and documents regarding the flawed practice of clearfell logging. Just had to go through and check everything for facts but the bulk of the work was done.
 
Chriso_29er said:
I have the pleasure of being contacted by the general public on a regular basis.

In a very short time, said correspondence has morphed from usual illegible rantings to detailed essays using all kinds of weird sophisticated words.
I have no idea why that might be...
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Might be the reason why some social media posts are a complete word salad.
 
Tubbsy said:
Another of my favourite pastimes ruined by AI is browsing car classifieds. You used to get a real sense of the owner from how they wrote, and now every other ad reads like a boring hyperbolic magazine article.
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As bad as people copying and pasting their bike's specs off the website even though half of the components have been swapped out.
 
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