The election thread - Two middle-late aged white men trying to be blokey and convincing..., same old shit, FFS.

[bear the bear]

 

[Scotty T]

I just want a Ferrari, sorry, a nuclear submarine, no matter the cost - Michael West

PM Albanese has just committed Australia to spending $368 billion on nuclear submarines, It’s a strategic blunder, not even going to happen.

michaelwest.com.au

 

[pink poodle]

Im a little behind...didn't scomo arrange (fuck up) the submarines?

 

[Oddjob]

Im a little behind...didn't scomo arrange (fuck up) the submarines?

Yes.

We could have had French nuclear submarines pretty much now, which would have happily served for 40 years for $40 billion.

Instead we gave the French $0.5 billion for fucking them over and now we are lubing up to pay $368bn so we can have some submarines maybe in 15 years time. But knowing how hopeless defence procurement is, more like 25 years.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

 

[Ackland]

Yes.

We could have had French nuclear submarines pretty much now, which would have happily served for 40 years for $40 billion.

Instead we gave the French $0.5 billion for fucking them over and now we are lubing up to pay $368bn so we can have some submarines maybe in 15 years time. But knowing how hopeless defence procurement is, more like 25 years.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

Hang on... we get three end of life ones that the US were about to scrap for a measly few billion in a couple of years....

Down Periscope (1996) ⭐ 6.1 | Comedy

1h 32m | M

www.imdb.com

 

[pink poodle]

Yes.

We could have had French nuclear submarines pretty much now, which would have happily served for 40 years for $40 billion.

Instead we gave the French $0.5 billion for fucking them over and now we are lubing up to pay $368bn so we can have some submarines maybe in 15 years time. But knowing how hopeless defence procurement is, more like 25 years.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

I see...so this is the ramifications of the scomo deal being foisted onto Albo? Or has Albo managed to make a shit deal even shitter?

 

[Oddjob]

Hang on... we get three end of life ones that the US were about to scrap for a measly few billion in a couple of years....

Down Periscope (1996) ⭐ 6.1 | Comedy

1h 32m | M

www.imdb.com

The end of life ones are Los Angeles class but it looks like we would get Virginia class Block I or II some time in the 2030s. The first of these were commissioned in 2004 and have a theoretical life till 2050s.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

 

[Oddjob]

I see...so this is the ramifications of the scomo deal being foisted onto Albo? Or has Albo managed to make a shit deal even shitter?

It's a foist to keep the close allies happy.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

 

[Ackland]

It's a foist to keep the close allies happy.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

"protection money".... so much for being tough on organised crime

 

[pink poodle]

So Albo is wearing a skid mark left behind by scomo...

 

[Oddjob]

So Albo is wearing a skid mark left behind by scomo...

Aren't we all?

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

 

[pink poodle]

Aren't we all?

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

A little true. Hopefully he isn't just choosing to keep shitting the nappy because "ahhhhhh fuck it".

 

[Dales Cannon]

Yes.

We could have had French nuclear submarines pretty much now, which would have happily served for 40 years for $40 billion.

Instead we gave the French $0.5 billion for fucking them over and now we are lubing up to pay $368bn so we can have some submarines maybe in 15 years time. But knowing how hopeless defence procurement is, more like 25 years.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

Trouble with the French ones is they keep doing clutches and the parts aren't available and @Haakon would have one in his back yard in 20 years.

 

[mike14]

Yes.

We could have had French nuclear submarines pretty much now, which would have happily served for 40 years for $40 billion.

Instead we gave the French $0.5 billion for fucking them over and now we are lubing up to pay $368bn so we can have some submarines maybe in 15 years time. But knowing how hopeless defence procurement is, more like 25 years.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

Even worse, we could have just Japanese diesel boats from around 2014-15. Abbott was all set to announce the deal and then pulled out at the last minute because South Australian LNP reps thought bit would kill their chances at the election as we'd be buying off the shelf rather than making them here

 

[Dales Cannon]

Even worse, we could have just Japanese diesel boats from around 2014-15. Abbott was all set to announce the deal and then pulled out at the last minute because South Australian LNP reps thought bit would kill their chances at the election as we'd be buying off the shelf rather than making them here

I worked with some of the tech people from the Collins class project. Made me feel sorry for the submariners.

 

[mike14]

I worked with some of the tech people from the Collins class project. Made me feel sorry for the submariners.

Yup, not a job I'd want to be doing.

My wife works in Defence recruiting. Across the ADF they are missing recruiting targets by a large margin which grows each quarter.
The submariner role misses by the largest amount each time and has for decades. These nuc boats need larger crews than the Collins, f-knows where the crew are coming from, now or in the future

 

[Halo1]

Yes.

We could have had French nuclear submarines pretty much now, which would have happily served for 40 years for $40 billion.

Instead we gave the French $0.5 billion for fucking them over and now we are lubing up to pay $368bn so we can have some submarines maybe in 15 years time. But knowing how hopeless defence procurement is, more like 25 years.

Sent from my M2012K11AG using Tapatalk

We would be building them now and blowing the budget trying to finish them with dates getting pushed to the never never.

 

[Ackland]

Yup, not a job I'd want to be doing.

My wife works in Defence recruiting. Across the ADF they are missing recruiting targets by a large margin which grows each quarter.
The submariner role misses by the largest amount each time and has for decades. These nuc boats need larger crews than the Collins, f-knows where the crew are coming from, now or in the future

Well it's unlikely that the hazing rituals exposed years ago ever actually stopped.....

Goundhog day?

Future Submarine project a farce that has missed a mention

The monster budget is coming, the one which, in a single blow, will make all the political debate since the federal election seem like an episode of <i>Seinfeld</i>, the show about nothing.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Haakon]

We would be building them now and blowing the budget trying to finish them with dates getting pushed to the never never.

But apparently we should be building nuclear power stations according to some...

 

[Dales Cannon]

But apparently we should be building nuclear power stations according to some...

We already are. Solar is nuclear.