I read that the anti vax movement is in a fight with the owners of Queen's music over the antivaxxers choice of theme song.
What makes you think I'm anti vaccine?Ahhh Novavax, the anti vaxxers vaccine... Did y'all watch the same YouTube vid?
lolNovavax has had an extremely substantial trial, moreso than what the others have had
40,000 circa participants
and all I hear is constant issues, right from the start of their trials up till now yet novavax trial something ridiculous like 40,000 circa participants and no significant reported issues. so you're damn right i'm going to put my preferrence towards something with actual good solid safety data behind it.lol
vs nearly 10 billion.
More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker
Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territorieswww.bloomberg.com
Mmm confirmation bias.and all I hear is constant issues, right from the start of their trials up till now yet novavax trial something ridiculous like 40,000 circa participants and no significant reported issues. so you're damn right i'm going to put my preferrence towards something with actual good solid safety data behind it.
NIL.Mmm confirmation bias.
I have a bear repelling rock to sell you if you need one?
Not a single bear has come near it in a test sample of 14,000 days
No, it's called an actual proper clinical trial unlike the slppy bs they did with pfizer and others. I did watch the first month of the trials with pfizer and etc and they immediately had reported issues which are still occurring now whereas the Nova trial had a very sigficant number of participants for a medical trial and I have not heard of one sever reported issue about it.Mmm confirmation bias.
Did you.I did watch the first month of the trials with pfizer and etc
Sure and that's what novavax proves. There's still people developing heart issues with pfizer to this day.Notwithstanding that of course vaccines and treatments will improve with time and increased research,
Vaccine rollouts only properly started last year with early trials in 2020 and aforementioned vaccines are still having issues to this day.where do you think the world would be if we'd all waited a year or two more before getting jabbed.
Well if you actually take a look at the stats vast majority of people who get it only receive extremely mild to moderate symptoms. Do people die? Absolutely they do and it sucks but these deaths are an extreme minority of cases but it's still sad of course and one death is too many but zero deaths is simply not realistic.first the virus wasn't really that bad because you didn't catch it,
Because it was but even If I spent the time gathering the information and making a post I know you people won't read it or, at the most, you'll just lazily skim it and make a lazy comment and move on., then it was manufactured in a lab
I never said it's worth getting vaccinated, that's you saying that, if you don't have any comorbidities you don't really need to be vaccinated for it, which is the group I sit in. I'm not even overweight, I don't have any pre-existing medical conditions, and considering close family members all got infected with it and I didn't develop any symptoms (Assuming I got it) I'm clearly not at risk of covid. The only reason I'm getting vaccinated is a work mandate otherwise I would not really have bothered.and now it's probably worth getting jabbed because the Novavax trials meet your lofty standards.
I agree but you're seeing the extreme fringe cases not the majority of cases that just get a sniffle or fever or nothing and then move on with their day. Remember right now (At least in tas) we have more daily recoveries then we do infections.It's pretty clear that you have no contact with anybody in front line emergency medicine. Plenty of us on here have family members who are, and let me tell you the situation is pretty fucking grim.
Novavx not yet proven.Sure and that's what novavax proves. There's still people developing heart issues with pfizer to this day.
All medications have side effects in some people. Novavax will too.Vaccine rollouts only properly started last year with early trials in 2020 and aforementioned vaccines are still having issues to this day.
That's nice. What about people who die because of ICUs overrun with covid patients and they miss out on other interventions? You have an extremely simplistic understanding of the bigger picture impacts on the health system.Well if you actually take a look at the stats vast majority of people who get it only receive extremely mild to moderate symptoms. Do people die? Absolutely they do and it sucks but these deaths are an extreme minority of cases but it's still sad of course and one death is too many but zero deaths is simply not realistic.
AKA you have no credible information at all. Would it pass the same evidence-based testing you require of a vaccine?Because it was but even If I spent the time gathering the information and making a post I know you people won't read it or, at the most, you'll just lazily skim it and make a lazy comment and move on.
Bollocks. Also it's not all about you. I'm glad your work is mandating vaccination.if you don't have any comorbidities you don't really need to be vaccinated for it
40,000 participants with no significant reported issues says otherwise, plus, the TGA wasn't going to make a decision till the 25th of this month yet they decided to push the decision ahead much sooner than what they initially stated so clearly the TGA saw something that proves otherwise, if opposite was true TGA likely would have delayed it again or straight up said no.Novavx not yet proven.
Sure, and that's why I do my absolute best to stay away from medications, I don't even use hayfever tablets and I avoid the use of painkillers as well.All medications have side effects in some people.
40,000 trial participants with no sever issues says novavax is going to be a lot better over pfizer which still has heart issues to this day. Will some people develop issues with novavax? Sure, maybe, but the data currently suggest it's not going likely significant issues will occur with this one opposed to pfizer.Novavax will too.
I understand the bigger picture. Back in 2020 early 2021 my granddad was meant to have surgery for a pacemaker which was classed as urgent but due to the lockdown at the time the hospital wrongly cancelled the surgery which mum then complained to a higher up and the surgery was very quickly put back on. This issue is likely even more confounded now and I do understand that but having a zero covid policy is simply not realistic.That's nice. What about people who die because of ICUs overrun with covid patients and they miss out on other interventions? You have an extremely simplistic understanding of the bigger picture impacts on the health system.
AKA I know exactly how you and others will respond, believe me, I've been down this road many times before and I've put massive amount of effort into it only for lazy comments or lazily snide remarks so I simply just don't bother any more.AKA you have no credible information at all. Would it pass the same evidence-based testing you require of a vaccine?
So how come I didn't get severely impacted by it? No comorbidities, no underlying health condintions, unvaccinated.Bollocks.
When mum tested positive I stayed at home despite testing negative and showing no symptoms. I easily could have gone into work but I didn't because I didn't want to risk locking down the whole place in case I developed symptoms later on and most importantly, there's a guy at work there whos 70 and had to have his bladder removed and went through a massive dosage of chemotherapy so now his immune system is shot so I most importantly stayed away because of that.Also it's not all about you.
I have to ask….is it because no one can get a test, or is bothering to test?Daily cases dropping pretty fast now,
It’s the Trump playbook. Less testing = less infections.I have to ask….is it because no one can get a test, or is bothering to test?
Was just talking to my riding mate with Covid. I asked if the rest of the fam for it. He said they didn’t bother testing, and they’re all self isolating. He also didn’t report his positive RAT…so, there’s 4/4 positive or likely positives not counted. Assume that’s pretty common.
I put our situation down to incompetence, not intentional nefariousness like Trump though.It’s the Trump playbook. Less testing = less infections.
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51 million reasons to get it approved.Novavx not yet proven.
All medications have side effects in some people. Novavax will too.
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Hayfever meds and paracetamol less proven than Novavax I guess.Sure, and that's why I do my absolute best to stay away from medications, I don't even use hayfever tablets and I avoid the use of painkillers as well.
AKA I know exactly how you and others will respond, believe me, I've been down this road many times before and I've put massive amount of effort into it only for lazy comments or lazily snide remarks so I simply just don't bother any more.
AKA you have no credible information at all. Would it pass the same evidence-based testing you require of a vaccine?
No you don't.I understand the bigger picture.
That’s the beauty of it. Everything that ScovMo & Perrotwit have done for over a month has been to spread the virus under the cover of resources & testing.I put our situation down to incompetence, not intentional nefariousness like Trump though.
You misspelled ‘gods plan’.That’s the beauty of it. Everything that ScovMo & Perrotwit have done for over a month has been to spread the virus under the cover of resources & testing.
It’s what both of them wanted from the beginning.
This way, they get to clear the “deadwood” from the economy in one fell swoop.
These people don’t think of a society, they label groups as lifters & leaners, budget expenditures etc.
Letting Omicron rip targets all the groups most in need of government support.
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